rovervi Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 You could all just try voting ha ha funny man, like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Well if you look at it there are enough motorists within the UK that if they did indeed vote the same way at an election they would walk whichever party they voted for through. As these "wonderfull" petitions proove when the crunch comes to it not even enough people will sign a sodding petition never mind get off their arses and do something about it. The few that do something get branded as militants. So its hardly surprising that the UK is rapidly becoming the most herd mentality state on the planet. Yeah sure we grumble alot but grumbling doesn't achieve anything. In the end the only options available are to go protest in a tree or simply leave the overwhelming immigrant population to take over the country (and to be fair they'll do a better job of running it as most are actually willing to do an honest days work) There endeth my rant for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersupra3 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 yet another crazy scheme to screw more money out of us! so signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest holly_bain Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 damn right, fuck this government, its time people stood up and got noticed, but as someone said earlier in this thread, i bet after a few weeks most of the public roll over and take it, like they always do, cowards. We as people cant let this go through, because if it does, what would be next, and belive me something would be next it always is with this country, its time for a revolt me thinks ohhh and first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Welcome to the newest rebellion dude So when are you also gonna realise that resistance is futile and move to a different country.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 i cant see this going ahead for at least 10 years, and if we did im sure we would be the only country in the world to do this. i dont think theres anything to worry about - especialy when you keep in mind the cost, time,technology and legalities for this to take place,. in fact id go as far to say it will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattanna Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Signed, never voted these bastards in ever, lets hope the public get the message and get the bastards out, robbing shite hawks:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB B Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Signed. Well spotted/sorted Pete. Totally agree with H. Vote them OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzi Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Signed and spread the word on a few other forums. Made a couple of pages on the topic thats how damn important it is to some of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 The evidence is that at some time or another we have to start to do something about the threat of global warming etc and the legacy we will leave What evidence is there that motorists + human influence is the result of global warming and that this is not just a natural cycle of the earth's evolution. Some scientists believe that our impact is negligible over for example the likes of bush fires / volcanoes, etc.... We have too many cars on the road - we have to reduce them do we really? look at london for example.....there are far too many empty bus lanes on the roads including the M4.... I do agree that there is a lot of concentration around london, if people were to spread out around the UK then that would also reduce the traffic in the main cities. We could go the Bush / USA route - lets bury our heads and it (and the politcial pressure from the petrol companies etc) will go away The fact is that the 4 main cities in the US are responsible for 25% of the WORLDs pollution and they arent doing anything about it. I think we should look seriously into other forms of fuel. re-forestation, reduce the dependancy on oil, etc. Will this really make an impact on global warming, maybe it will, maybe it wont - who knows? however taxing car drivers like what they have planned have nothing to do with global warming; watch out - spin doctors in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Although I would be very unhappy if a scheme like this came in - especially if it included speed monitoring - I also think it's a little naive to expect people's voting to be based purely on one issue. And I must confess that although I don't support this - from a purely selfish perspective there are some schemes I would be happy to see, even though they would be unpopular with many motorists. I think the M6 toll is excellent - and I'd be happy to see more motorways become toll roads. As I say - it's purely for selfish reasons - the traffic is a nightmare, tolls would reduce it and I wouldn't get stuck in traffic so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 One or the other - road tax per year, which is exactly that "or" a milage tax, cake and eat it springs to mind, but as we all know us good old Brits will accept it just as we would an arse fkuking if the government told us too. I'll be right at the front of any protest against this proposal. Steps down............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 What evidence is there that motorists + human influence is the result of global warming and that this is not just a natural cycle of the earth's evolution. Some scientists believe that our impact is negligible over for example the likes of bush fires / volcanoes, etc.... do we really? look at london for example.....there are far too many empty bus lanes on the roads including the M4.... I do agree that there is a lot of concentration around london, if people were to spread out around the UK then that would also reduce the traffic in the main cities. The fact is that the 4 main cities in the US are responsible for 25% of the WORLDs pollution and they arent doing anything about it. I think we should look seriously into other forms of fuel. re-forestation, reduce the dependancy on oil, etc. Will this really make an impact on global warming, maybe it will, maybe it wont - who knows? however taxing car drivers like what they have planned have nothing to do with global warming; watch out - spin doctors in action. go on then imi, youve drawn me in im gonna say something and your going to think im a loony ,. ( yes you already did i know ) here is a fact that no-one else either seems to know about, or does know about it but wont talk about it. the planet now is at such a stage in its deterioration that if we cut our pollution it will actualy have a detramental effect on our planet., the fact is the pollution is actualy saving us right now from warming that we should off experienced in 30 years from now. this is called "Global dimming" its a serious issue and we as a planet need to address global dimming before global warming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 go on then imi, youve drawn me in im gonna say something and your going to think im a loony ,. ( yes you already did i know ) here is a fact that no-one else either seems to know about, or does know about it but wont talk about it. the planet now is at such a stage in its deterioration that if we cut our pollution it will actualy have a detramental effect on our planet., the fact is the pollution is actualy saving us right now from warming that we should off experienced in 30 years from now. this is called "Global dimming" its a serious issue and we as a planet need to address global dimming before global warming I saw the same program - however, I thought that the conclusion was slightly different. Global dimming was something they hadn't predicted - or were aware of until fairly recently - and it means that their predictions of global warming are actually way off. If global dimming was cured, global warming would be MUCH worse than previously expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I'd say as a country that has almost unprecedented taxation (add it all up it will scare you) it can afford a system the governement so desires. Did you honestly think 20 years ago you would have to watch your P's and Q's to the degree that only comedians can take the piss out of homosexuals, women, any shade other than white, fat people, thin people, people with any kind of mild disfigurement (including ginger hair) etc etc??? But no its now law you can't cause offence to anyone. Well I say anyone, unless of course you are a law abiding citizen then the law will just strap one on and bugger you senseless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Thinking about it...bring it on! I'm sure it'll take naff all to over come the device, just turn it on every now and then and claim it's kept in a lead roof garage or something. High tech solutions are always overcome by people with intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyW Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Thinking about it...bring it on! I'm sure it'll take naff all to over come the device, just turn it on every now and then and claim it's kept in a lead roof garage or something. High tech solutions are always overcome by people with intelligence. I like the cut of your jib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I saw the same program - however, I thought that the conclusion was slightly different. Global dimming was something they hadn't predicted - or were aware of until fairly recently - and it means that their predictions of global warming are actually way off. If global dimming was cured, global warming would be MUCH worse than previously expected. the bit in the show where they took air tempratures whilst all planes were grounded during 911 was interesting,an overall rise by like 6 degrees or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I saw the same program - however, I thought that the conclusion was slightly different. Global dimming was something they hadn't predicted - or were aware of until fairly recently - and it means that their predictions of global warming are actually way off. If global dimming was cured, global warming would be MUCH worse than previously expected. Darren - I saw that very same program too. The point is that there is NO conclusive proof that man-made pollution is the cause of global warming or the effect on the climate. Despite that, the government is capitalising on all this propaganda and cashing in on us poor motorists. Its NOT about saving the planet at all. Just go around london, how many buildings do you see with ALL their lights switched on ALL NIGHT LONG...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I have seen many whacky ideas on global warming.. Cows and termites produce more of the gases that *harm* the environment than any of us that drive a Supra We should really be looking to measure/monitor our impact - but to be honest with huge volcanic eruptions going on wtf is the point? Also at any one point in the future - somewhere like Yellowstone could erupt and wipe us out - mooting the whole debate? The emissions we (us humans driving our insane dinosaur goo munching automovehicles) produce is DWARFED by natural disasters... yes we don't help - NO we aren't the sole reason behind climatic change. Do we understand climate change/ice ages fully? F*ck no! Climate change specialists are only as good as the data they are given and the speculations made on extrapolation (same as any scientist - I know I used to be one - a phamarceutical biochemist if you have to know) - who knows who is right?? The important bit is... What do I fill my Supra up with in 20 years time???? And will it be easily converted - (and how much HP do I lose?!?!?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Can I get a Nuclear fusion kit like in BTTF2?... Thor help me out!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 The important bit is... What do I fill my Supra up with in 20 years time???? And will it be easily converted - (and how much HP do I lose?!?!?) If the govt have their way, do you honestly believe that you will be able to afford to drive your supra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markie Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Any government we vote in will be the same. They are all as bad as one another.. This country is the most greedy tax sucking bunch of bas*a*ds ever! It will never change, as they waste money on just crap. Where the hell does it all go? Take this example: I get paid - TAXED I buy petrol - TAXED I get paid work milage - TAXED (Go figure, when I have paid tax already buying the f*ck*n* stuff) I buy food with my pay - TAXED I buy life comforts with my pay - TAXED Shit all in this county is free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Markie - you are right about the others party's wanting to do the same..... You inherit property from your folks and you get TAXED You decide to invest your taxed income into property and god forbid make a profit if you sell it, you get TAXED So - for the love of GOD - they dont give a flying f..k about the environment or anything else other than, Taxing the living daylights out of innocent motorists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markie Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Fully agree boyo...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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