Daston Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Plus the C2D isnt 64bit so that is going to sting them in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 hahahahahaha Well ive just read a few ways to waste £500!!!!!!!!! And whats all this bullshit about conroes not being good? The E6700 is faster than an FX62 in every benchmark!! I personally would not buy a new PC right now at all. Vista is just around the corner, and you are going to need a stand-alone graphics card for that. As for sound cards, unless you have some amazing PC speakers, such as the Logitech Z-5500's then dont bother. On a good motherboard onboard will more than suffice. As for graphics cards, you can buy a card that costs £30 but really there is no point at all if you ever want to play a current let alone next gen PC game on even medium settings. When building a new pc, you need to decide what its for. If you want it for games, then DO NOT BUY ONE YET!!! I REPEAT DO NOT BUY ONE YET!!!! Vista is just around the corner with direct X 10 which means much better graphics, and we are still awaiting AMD's response to quad core! Yes i said quad core, because thats what we are on now people, forget duel core, thats going the same way as skt 939 processors ie obsolete! If you just want a good fast general PC, and are not interested in playing games, then go for the following. E6300 or E6400 conroe processor 2 gig of DDR 2 memory, A branded motherboad eg Asus, Abit, DFI, Epox etc (none of this asrock shite) And a Nvidia 7900gs Finally and most importantly get a decent power supply. Spend at least £40 on a branded 500watt + PSU. Ives seen too many PCs destroyed by cheap PSU's!! But if you can hang on at all, Do not buy a PC now, quad core is soon to become mainstream and prices will drop with the arrival of vista in January. And if you want direct X 10 with Vista you will need a direct X 10 GPU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Intel is fantastic at runing multi apps but so far the tests show AMD works better for single apps ie games and as my pc is a games rig I like to stick to AMD if I were to make an office rig the C2D would be used mate im sorry but thats absolute crap. You may love AMD, heck we all do, ive been with AMD for years, but conroes are currently the very best CPU you can get period! Im sure AMD will retaliate soon, but just google the E6600 reviews on hexus.net or other review sites, think your going to be suprised. And they are cheap, very cheap! I agree games dont use duel core yet, but the conroes are faster for games regardless of duel core or not. They are leagues ahead of the old P4's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 If you read my posts you'll notice that I need to upgrade my PC to cope with (minimum) 4-track music recording & editing software. Gaming/hardcore graphics is not required (but dual monitors are) It's probably going to be January anyway when I have the money available to do this, so Vista might be an option, I have no idea about it currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Ok for one he needs a soundcard as he is using it for sound recording AC’97 sound aint going to cut it. Once again I will say that Intel are good but AMD are better for game type applications. Vista needs a DX9c compatible vid card so no need to wait there. DX10 has yet to be released and so far he has no use for it as he will not be playing games. I agree with this set up E6300 or E6400 conroe processor 2 gig of DDR 2 memory, A branded motherboad eg Asus, Abit, DFI, Epox etc (none of this asrock shite) And a Nvidia 7900gs Finally and most importantly get a decent power supply. Spend at least £40 on a branded 500wat PSU. Ives seen too many PCs destroyed by cheap PSU's!! However no one has said “asrock” and a 7900 isnt really needed as its overkill for a workhorse pc unless he is doing graphic works. Plus can you get that for £500?? Quad core is good but so far the tests show its no faster than dual core as there is no soft ware that will utilise it yet. There isn’t even software that is truly multi threaded yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I don't actaully think you'll go too far wrong with a high end creative labs card. But I don't know what sort of input/output you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 mate im sorry but thats absolute crap. You may love AMD, heck we all do, ive been with AMD for years, but conroes are currently the very best CPU you can get period! Im sure AMD will retaliate soon, but just google the E6600 reviews on hexus.net or other review sites, think your going to be suprised. And they are cheap, very cheap! I agree games dont use duel core yet, but the conroes are faster for games regardless of duel core or not. They are leagues ahead of the old P4's that may be the case but explain why my X2 is quicker than my mate C2D on the same harware. His Motherboard could be a bit pants I supose. Mine always gets a better CPU score in 3Dmark06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 The 7900gs is simply the best GPU you get can get for the money. Its by no means a top end GPU anymore, and you can pick them up for £100. At the very least I would get a 6800gt as you can get these foir like £60! But getting a 6200 or other budget card is a complete and utter waste of time. Ive seen budget cards have trouble with DVD playback! If his budget is £500 he can get what i said, and be still under budget if careful, and have a good alround PC. 7900gs are ok cards not fantastic. I have two 7900gtx's in SLI and they stil have their moments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Ideally, I'm looking at 4 separate inputs so we can record drums, guitar, bass & vocals from the mixing desk to separate tracks on the PC software (probably Cubase). My graphics card needs to be able to handle 2d graphics in AutoCAD and support dual monitors. It needs to be fast enough to cope with recording music in real time. When I'm recording, only one app will be in use, other times I may have AutoCAD 2007, Outlook & Azureus running concurrently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 For a suitable sound card you can go for this... Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-031-CL I have one in my main rig and it does more then I will ever need from it. It also comes with a professional style audio interface for recording ect. *edit, not sure on the 4 inputs though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 ok had a look at intels and I stand corrected....... but still not 64bit lol If he can afford the 7900gs then yeah go for it What you running to make your GTX's jump? My 7900 GT never misses a beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 that may be the case but explain why my X2 is quicker than my mate C2D on the same harware. His Motherboard could be a bit pants I supose. Mine always gets a better CPU score in 3Dmark06 Look just trust me on this, im not just arguing for the sake of it. Ive used AMD cpus's since the duron all the way up till the FX series. One of the mistakes people make is that buy crap motherboards and crap ram becuase they dont think it makes a difference. Well it does a lot! I still currently have amd cpu's, but if i were buying a PC this very second it would use a conroe. What Cpu's are you comparing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Yeah, I saw that card in PC World yesterday, but for the money, the aforementioned M-Audio card looks good (and 4 or 6 channel inputs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Yeah, I saw that card in PC World yesterday, but for the money, the aforementioned M-Audio card looks good (and 4 or 6 channel inputs) what card? you comparing a graphics card to a sound card? and PC world for components? are you mad or just have money to burn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Yeah, I saw that card in PC World yesterday, but for the money, the aforementioned M-Audio card looks good (and 4 or 6 channel inputs) Something here might be more suitable for your needs.. http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/browse/category_id/9f73a8ba694fa4af34e42f1936f270a5 If money was not an issue this one would probably do nicely: Alesis MultiMix FireWire 16 Mixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Actually i see now, I would only get the extreme music, you can get for around £50 oem on the net. More than enough, but creative has terrible driver issues at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 lol PC world mark up their prices like mad they still got 7600's in there for around £200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Sorry, more people jumped in front of me. Gamer mentioned the Creative X-Fi. And the g/f was in there looking at printers for her mum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Too slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 lol PC world mark up their prices like mad they still got 7600's in there for around £200 yeah and i doubt they have ever sold a high spec card ever! Ive never seen a 7900gt let alone a gtx in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 And that Creative X-Fi card was £150 in PC world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 no I did get my 5900 from there online store when I was young and stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Wow, just read through all this tech jargon and was wondering; whats over clocking?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 If quad core becomes mainstream before this time next year I'll buy a hat and eat it. The Creative X-Fi cards are ok, good in fact (sometimes dodgy driver issues aside), but if you're after using your PC for proper recording studio type stuff you need something like those M-Audio or EMU cards IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 If quad core becomes mainstream before this time next year I'll buy a hat and eat it. The Creative X-Fi cards are ok, good in fact (sometimes dodgy driver issues aside), but if you're after using your PC for proper recording studio type stuff you need something like those M-Audio or EMU cards IMO. quad core wont become mainstream becuase it will no doubt be replaced by mostly likely more cores! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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