tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 This IS racist mate, no two ways about it. Not only have you joined IMI in his row boat, you have just been promoted to Captain. It's NOT racist mate, if it sounded racist then either you read it wrong or I wrote it wrong. Racist means hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. This is not me. I would welcome any race to visit our country, if they want to live here then by all means come here, get a job, buy a house and live with us, I don't disciminate at all because of belief or skin colour. What I don't want is for them to come here, claim benefit, rent a house from the council, and then go around claiming we're all wrong in our religious beliefs!! Taking jobs at half the pay we'd expect (because it's twice as much as they got at 'home'), and then laugh behind our backs when we get a bomb in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 OMG you guys have taken this completely the wrong way havent you!!! Just like the Hitler thing all those years ago. ( Yes, poor old Hitler, just misunderstood wasn't he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Yes, poor old Hitler, just misunderstood wasn't he. You missed out on the Hitler post then? Hey at least I've bought 12 viewers back into this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Your classing everyone that comes here as only doing so because they want a free ride. True there are plenty of asylum seekers who are coming here of many different religions. That does not mean that everyone who is Muslim, Jewish or whatever faith is coming here without a pot to piss in. You should not paint with such broad strokes mate. I have views on Muslims in particular that I won't mention, maybe I was using those opinions to 'tar' the other immigrants. My bad. I still think though that we have slack immigration rules, if you haven't been here for at least a few generations you need to prove your worth in some way - not just stroll in and start calling yourself 'British'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 It's NOT racist mate, if it sounded racist then either you read it wrong or I wrote it wrong. Racist means hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. This is not me. I would welcome any race to visit our country, if they want to live here then by all means come here, get a job, buy a house and live with us, I don't disciminate at all because of belief or skin colour. What I don't want is for them to come here, claim benefit, rent a house from the council, and then go around claiming we're all wrong in our religious beliefs!! Taking jobs at half the pay we'd expect (because it's twice as much as they got at 'home'), and then laugh behind our backs when we get a bomb in the face. But you are claiming that THIER religion is all wrong. Why should they not be able to build places of worship. That is discrimination... The Head of State is a Christian monarch crowned by an Arch-bishop in a church, so Britons should be largely Christian (currently 72%). Admittedly I class myself as an athiest but I believe this is one of few 'religions' (if you can call it that) that can co-exist with others with no problem (I was chatting at length with a bloke at work yesterday who's a member of a holy brotherhood - very interesting). Other than Christian and Catholic there shouldn't be any more 'religion mixing' IMO. Basically Britain should not include people of Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism or Judaism to name a few. No other country would allow mosques to be built from old Bingo halls!!! So called 'British' Muslims are of Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi origin, and we are now being inundated with Somali and Middle-Eastern asylum seekers who are also Muslim. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT BRITISH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 But you are claiming that THIER religion is all wrong. Why should they not be able to build places of worship. That is discrimination... They can, by all means, in MUSLIM countries, where we would probably be locked up or worse for even considering thinking anything Christian!!! That's why I'm saying it's not Racist, I've got no problems with what they do on their own turf, but turning MY turf into what they've already got at home I don't agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I still think though that we have slack immigration rules, if you haven't been here for at least a few generations you need to prove your worth in some way - not just stroll in and start calling yourself 'British'. if thats the case - the same should be done for people who have lived here for generations - and if they don't have something to offer - kick them out too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I have views on Muslims in particular that I won't mention, maybe I was using those opinions to 'tar' the other immigrants. My bad. I still think though that we have slack immigration rules, if you haven't been here for at least a few generations you need to prove your worth in some way - not just stroll in and start calling yourself 'British'. I understand where you are coming from but there are conditions that need to be met to be accepted into this country to stay. I am also sure that for every asylum seeker that there is mooching money off the state you will find 3 times as many 'tried and true Brits' who have been here for many generations doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I wonder if we could round up all the stupid ill informed people and take them to a desert island somewhere to live happily with each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I wonder if we could round up all the stupid ill informed people and take them to a desert island somewhere to live happily with each other? I thought that place already existed. (The middle east) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I thought that place already existed. (The middle east) not happy tho are they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Same with Britain, I didn't want it to sound like I was picking out who classes as British because you can't do that, it's impossible to clasify (my mum is half Jewish too BTW). um.. am i the only one seeing you own yourself there? if your mother is half jewish - chances are your not 11th century 'british' - your the byproduct of immigration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I understand where you are coming from but there are conditions that need to be met to be accepted into this country to stay. I am also sure that for every asylum seeker that there is mooching money off the state you will find 3 times as many 'tried and true Brits' who have been here for many generations doing the same. I don't have a problem with that. My dad's a scrounging bastard who owes me several thousand pounds, my mum's an alcoholic who made 70% of my young life a misery with mood swings and illogical reasoning (OK slight exageration on both counts) but I still love them both and would (and do) do anything I can for them. British people scrounging off the state is what the state scrounging system is set up for. If I was in charge (I can hear everyong thinking 'god forbid') I'd have stricter rules for benefits, but if them's the rules and people abuse it it's their choice - I just can't stand it when the seekers abuse our systems like they do. if thats the case - the same should be done for people who have lived here for generations - and if they don't have something to offer - kick them out too? Damn straight, as mentioned above I would do something like this if I had the power (hanging paedos by the balls would also be top of the list), I can just accept it a lot easier if it's a British chav than a Muslim extremist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 um.. am i the only one seeing you own yourself there? if your mother is half jewish - chances are your not 11th century 'british' - your the byproduct of immigration. Yes but immigrants that have integrated well into the host society, accepted their rules and their values as their own. Not try to foist their own ideals, values, credo as the muslim society seems so hell bent on doing. Look to the Phillipines where grenades are thrown into christian churches and teenage church goers are shot in cold blood by muslims. If the muslim states were so great why are people leaving them and coming here to the UK or the USA to live. Is it something to do with freedom!! yet muslim society STILL expects us to bend to their ways but will not yeild to our values. My family can be traced back to Germany and to the civil war of 1776 in America, I am a product of immigration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Has this gone off topic? Sorry Imi I've ruined your thread, maybe I'll shut up in future, I've obviously upset a lot of people here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I wonder if we could round up all the stupid ill informed people and take them to a desert island somewhere to live happily with each other? Should be easy enough rounding them up, many of them post on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Yes but immigrants that have integrated well into the host society, accepted their rules and their values as their own. Not try to foist their own ideals, values, credo as the muslim society seems so hell bent on doing. Look to the Phillipines where grenades are thrown into christian churches and teenage church goers are shot in cold blood by muslims. If the muslim states were so great why are people leaving them and coming here to the UK or the USA to live. Is it something to do with freedom!! yet muslim society STILL expects us to bend to their ways but will not yeild to our values. My family can be traced back to Germany and to the civil war of 1776 in America, I am a product of immigration "Yes but immigrants that have integrated well into the host society, accepted their rules and their values as their own.credo as the muslim society seems so hell bent on doing." rules are laws? correct? and values are.... morals?? - please show me two "11th century british" people who have the same moral as each other... as for muslims being hell bent on changing the views of the real british - as for the muslim part - i doubt you'd even know the diffrence between muslim and non muslim uptill sept 11th... those views you see of extemists are just a extreamly small number of individuals the media has glorified and hailed as the representatives of ALL muslims - mate - muslims come in ALL colours, and ALL backgrounds - its not a race, its not a religion - its a way of life - i strongly urge you to read beyond the crap you see on the news and look at islam in its TRUE form - it teaches tollerence, love and peace amongst ALL mankind and mankinds dwelling. "Look to the Phillipines where grenades are thrown into christian churches and teenage church goers are shot in cold blood by muslims." granted - sectarian violence exists everywhere though - you get the idiots in every country who just want to get things done their way - sadly to them life has no value ... - having said that - you shouldnt classify ALL muslims in the phillipines as christian bashers.... "If the muslim states were so great why are people leaving them and coming here to the UK or the USA to live. Is it something to do with freedom!! " um.. maybe it has something to do with us foreign policy exterminating these people from their own land?? claiming weapons of mass destruction exist - blowing up EVERYTHING? perhaps they find it easier to join the "enemy" rather then fight em ? "yet muslim society STILL expects us to bend to their ways but will not yeild to our values" Please - explain what values you believe muslims are not yeilding to - and think carefully about this one - as the obvious answers may not get the desired effect "My family can be traced back to Germany and to the civil war of 1776 in America, I am a product of immigration" ah thats good - i'm a product of immigration too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Should be easy enough rounding them up, many of them post on here. name and shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Ooh it's all kicking off here! Anyway. I had a lovely trip in Venice for five days. I walked tons and tons of miles, and all was beautiful and peaceful. There were NO chavs anywhere, and even the graffiti was pretty. Anyone care for a graffiti piccy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Ooh it's all kicking off here! Anyway. I had a lovely trip in Venice for five days. I walked tons and tons of miles, and all was beautiful and peaceful. There were NO chavs anywhere, and even the graffiti was pretty. Anyone care for a graffiti piccy? Was in Venice earlier in the year, can't say we saw any "pretty" graffiti though. Nothing that the clone tool in photoshop can't sort out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Ooh it's all kicking off here! Anyway. I had a lovely trip in Venice for five days. I walked tons and tons of miles, and all was beautiful and peaceful. There were NO chavs anywhere, and even the graffiti was pretty. Anyone care for a graffiti piccy? yeah go on then, this thread needs a bit of brightening up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 First of all, look what I found in my laptop/bits'n'pieces bag (hand luggage!) after we arrived in Venice. I couldn't believe it. We could have been arrested for taking this onto the plane. http://www2.css-networks.com/venice/1.JPG http://www2.css-networks.com/venice/2.JPG http://www2.css-networks.com/venice/3.JPG http://www2.css-networks.com/venice/4.JPG http://www2.css-networks.com/venice/5.JPG and now for my favourite bits of graffiti... http://www2.css-networks.com/venice/graffiti1.JPG http://www2.css-networks.com/venice/graffiti2.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Check out the size of the Pizza! This was a family sized one. Only 9 EURO! http://www2.css-networks.com/venezia/IMG_0337.JPG http://www2.css-networks.com/venezia/IMG_0339.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Blimey! Is this thread still going ? Figured you lot would've got bored ... after Title .. .... Round 20! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 These guys sang the Beatles, to a very appreciative audience! http://www2.css-networks.com/venezia/IMG_0362.JPG http://www2.css-networks.com/venezia/IMG_0368.JPG http://www2.css-networks.com/venezia/IMG_0373.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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