Nick Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I don't know who votes for them, I've only come across their party in the last few weeks, but they share a lot of my views so I've decided I prefer them to the other available candidates. I still won't vote though. Why won't you vote? Unless you vote for them, then you can't support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 OK I don't support them, excuse my incorrect terminology, I agree with their ideas. I don't vote because it's pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 they simply want to bring Britain back to the British, and make it a deocracy for once. OK, define 'British'. ..and if you look a little deeper they are actually dead against Democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I don't vote because it's pointless. No it's not, it's the one bit of power you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 No it's not, it's the one bit of power you have. But it's pointless. My 1 vote won't change the outcome, and yes I understand that if everyone said that then it would make a difference etc. but I'm not talking about everyone, I'm talking about me, I only have 1 vote, and never in the history of anything has it been a 1 vote deciding factor who gets in - therefore it's pointless. I don't want to vote Labour or Conservative, and it's unlikely Lib Dem will get in (plus the fact that they always seem to win in Pompey anyway so again my vote for LD won't help cos they're already there!!). I also wouldn't vote because I haven't had enough time to peruse the various policies in detail, and I'm not putting my name to something unless I know every detail of what I'm signing up for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Wondered when that thread would show itself again (can open - worms everywhere!). I actually edited that post as I thought I'd gone too far... You obviously don't know the full story of the BNP, so please stop bantering their name around like you do... Do a bit of research on an organisation called Combat 18... not at work if you can help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I actually edited that post as I thought I'd gone too far... You obviously don't know the full story of the BNP, so please stop bantering their name around like you do... Do a bit of research on an organisation called Combat 18... not at work if you can help it. Combat 18 had nothing to do with the BNP - do your research mate I had to do a study for my sociology A-Level about them And why would you want to look up a neo-nazi hate party at home?!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Combat 18 had nothing to do with the BNP - do your research mate I had to do a study for my sociology A-Level about them And why would you want to look up a neo-nazi hate party at home?!?!?!?! Like the IRA had nothing do do with Sein Fein? Wow.. A level sociology eh...? Would you prefer to look them up at work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Edited mine too. And to answer what I didn't before: OK, define 'British'. People that have been here since 11th century, descendants of Normans and various other groups such as Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Romans etc. Not the new influx of 'settlers' that have invaded largely in the last 50 years. The Head of State is a Christian monarch crowned by an Arch-bishop in a church, so Britons should be largely Christian (currently 72%). Admittedly I class myself as an athiest but I believe this is one of few 'religions' (if you can call it that) that can co-exist with others with no problem (I was chatting at length with a bloke at work yesterday who's a member of a holy brotherhood - very interesting). Other than Christian and Catholic there shouldn't be any more 'religion mixing' IMO. Basically Britain should not include people of Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism or Judaism to name a few. No other country would allow mosques to be built from old Bingo halls!!! So called 'British' Muslims are of Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi origin, and we are now being inundated with Somali and Middle-Eastern asylum seekers who are also Muslim. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT BRITISH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 My work here is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 My work here is done. What were you hoping to accomplish? I still agree with what I've read of the BNP, I'm sure there's more too it as there is with everything!! Never heard of Combat 18 though. Will I be under MI5 surveilance as soon as I Google it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Basically Britain should not include people of Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism or Judaism to name a few. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT BRITISH!! Ermm I am. I am classed as jewish because my father is but I was born and raised in Britain as was he, and his mother and so forth. (oh and my sister is the same but has blonde hair and blue eyes if that makes any difference?) Could you clear up where I should live only I thought this was my origin of birth and therefore the country I can live in. If not, where should I live? What a sad sad state of affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Basically Britain should not include people of Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism or Judaism to name a few. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT BRITISH!! WTF... My great grandad gave his life in world war 2 for this country, he originated from Iran, he was a muslim as i am, my parents were born here in England and so was I. According to your sadistic views, I should'nt be living in this country. If Imi had said the above then Clarkey, Gamer, Paul and quite a few others would have been on to him like a ton of bricks (Rightly so)......Is it just me, Mike and Charlotte that are offended by Tbourner's views? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Crikey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Is it just me, Mike and Charlotte that are offended by Tbourner's views? His views don't offend me, they just make me pity him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Edited mine too. And to answer what I didn't before: People that have been here since 11th century, descendants of Normans and various other groups such as Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Romans etc. Not the new influx of 'settlers' that have invaded largely in the last 50 years. The Head of State is a Christian monarch crowned by an Arch-bishop in a church, so Britons should be largely Christian (currently 72%). Admittedly I class myself as an athiest but I believe this is one of few 'religions' (if you can call it that) that can co-exist with others with no problem (I was chatting at length with a bloke at work yesterday who's a member of a holy brotherhood - very interesting). Other than Christian and Catholic there shouldn't be any more 'religion mixing' IMO. Basically Britain should not include people of Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism or Judaism to name a few. No other country would allow mosques to be built from old Bingo halls!!! So called 'British' Muslims are of Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi origin, and we are now being inundated with Somali and Middle-Eastern asylum seekers who are also Muslim. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT BRITISH!! hmm .... i can see where your comming from - but er... isn't the whole being "british" thing you've just posted about just pushing you back into the dark ages? what about people who settled here before the 11th century? would you feel the same if they didnt see you as being british? as for the bit about muslims not being british - reality check needed... it was the empire who "invaded" south asia from what your saying - your view is just their to suit you - and as such - your IMO your just as bad as the "extremists".... except you execute your doctrine using more subtle methods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 His views don't offend me, they just make me pity him. Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 His views don't offend me, they just make me pity him. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Wow.. A level sociology eh...? Yes that is ONE of my qualifications. And I happen to know i'm right mate. No need to get personal, it's not like i'm defending them - just stating that you made an observation that wasn't correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Originally Posted by tbourner Edited mine too. And to answer what I didn't before: People that have been here since 11th century, descendants of Normans and various other groups such as Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Romans etc. Not the new influx of 'settlers' that have invaded largely in the last 50 years. The Head of State is a Christian monarch crowned by an Arch-bishop in a church, so Britons should be largely Christian (currently 72%). Admittedly I class myself as an athiest but I believe this is one of few 'religions' (if you can call it that) that can co-exist with others with no problem (I was chatting at length with a bloke at work yesterday who's a member of a holy brotherhood - very interesting). Other than Christian and Catholic there shouldn't be any more 'religion mixing' IMO. Basically Britain should not include people of Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism or Judaism to name a few. No other country would allow mosques to be built from old Bingo halls!!! So called 'British' Muslims are of Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi origin, and we are now being inundated with Somali and Middle-Eastern asylum seekers who are also Muslim. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT BRITISH!! This IS racist mate, no two ways about it. Not only have you joined IMI in his row boat, you have just been promoted to Captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 This IS racist mate, no two ways about it. Not only have you joined IMI in his row boat, you have just been promoted to Captain. Straight to the point..Good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 i'm a little shocked to be honest - i would of expected tbourner to be alittle more diverse considering he's lived in this country for 24 years and 11 months - suprised he's not bumped into people who could of help him overcome his fear of other human beings (aka non "british" people) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 OMG you guys have taken this completely the wrong way havent you!!! Just like the Hitler thing all those years ago. I find it really hard to explain stuff on here, I tried by writing a huge post and clearly it's gone the wrong way. If I had time I'd sit in chat and explain it but I don't. What makes an American? how many different 'types' of American are there? How old is America!!! By what you're taking as my view I would say that the only true Americans are the original native indians - obviously we're past that now and America is rich in varied social difference. Same with Britain, I didn't want it to sound like I was picking out who classes as British because you can't do that, it's impossible to clasify (my mum is half Jewish too BTW). I'm just trying feebly to explain my views on the people that come here to escape whatever it is, giving the impression we're giving them a free ride. We've all seen the joke cartoons about coming to England for a free lunch. When you get people on the news saying they hate us and our way of life, they wished the extremists would have killed more people, they want to laugh at the US after 9/11, etc. I feel that we have opened the doors to all who wish to enter (unlike every other country who won't let anyone in) and our core 'Britons' are being slowly diluted. There we go another long post that you can all pick apart and disect and again get me completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 What makes an American? how many different 'types' of American are there? How old is America!!! By what you're taking as my view I would say that the only true Americans are the original native indians - obviously we're past that now and America is rich in varied social difference. Same with Britain, I didn't want it to sound like I was picking out who classes as British because you can't do that, it's impossible to clasify (my mum is half Jewish too BTW). I'm just trying feebly to explain my views on the people that come here to escape whatever it is, giving the impression we're giving them a free ride. We've all seen the joke cartoons about coming to England for a free lunch. When you get people on the news saying they hate us and our way of life, they wished the extremists would have killed more people, they want to laugh at the US after 9/11, etc. I feel that we have opened the doors to all who wish to enter (unlike every other country who won't let anyone in) and our core 'Britons' are being slowly diluted. There we go another long post that you can all pick apart and disect and again get me completely wrong. Your classing everyone that comes here as only doing so because they want a free ride. True there are plenty of asylum seekers who are coming here of many different religions. That does not mean that everyone who is Muslim, Jewish or whatever faith is coming here without a pot to piss in. You should not paint with such broad strokes mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 It's my country, will everyone else just get out? Oh and close the door on your way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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