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his way of life, sacrifice, morals, his powers, what he stands for and the lessons that he teachs, there all far ahead of any other super hero, plus hes not just some human that got changed, hes an alien, hes from another planet, so possibly more believable (in his early 1940+) days.

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Ah! He is 'normal' in his alter-ego (Clark Kent) - all the others are 'super' in their alter-egos :)

 

That's what I thought, from 'Unbreakable' isn't it? He's the only one who is naturally Superman, and he wears a suit to make him look normal - he was even wrapped in his Superman suit when he crashed here!! All the others put on a suit to 'become' the hero!!

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I've read this hole thread, an some things I agree with, and some I don't. All i'll say is that I believe in the saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans". Many people who come to this country choose to fit in as best they can, but there are other's who want to live by their own rules, an not try to fit in at all. These people, regardless of nationality, religion or colour, are the one's who cause problems. I agree with the Aussie policy when it was said that "its not the country that has to adapt to your way of life (the immigrants), its you that has to adapt to our way of life, we have our culture, our laws, and our religion, if you don't want to fit in, don't come here, if you don't like it when your here, then leave.

 

Well that's basically what I've been trying to say (why weren't you here yesterday!!! :D ). Then people still pick at it and say "What about the people who are already here and don't live by our rules? Should they be kicked out?" and other stupid things like "What are the rules you want them to live by?"!!!

 

I just want Muslims to take off their head gear when I tell them to. I could claim that I'm a man of science, science tells me it's bloody cold outside, so I'm wearing a balaclava as part of my Atheist religion - I bet you a million pounds I'd get asked to remove it by someone on the first day!!!

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I could claim that I'm a man of science, science tells me it's bloody cold outside, so I'm wearing a balaclava as part of my Atheist religion - I bet you a million pounds I'd get asked to remove it by someone on the first day!!!

 

If you walked into a bank or building society, damned straight they will ask you politely to remove any facial coverings - it kinda makes them twitchy :) Security reasons... has been that way since I remember. Also, airport security tend to have issues with covering your face when a visual identity has to be established against a passport photo.

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You didn't miss much tbh. RB was wittering on for ages about what a huge fan he is of SM and how nervous he was to meet him. M came on, sang a song I've never heard before, it was alright. Then RB gushed a bit more and SM looked uncomfortable, they hugged awkwardly then SM fooked off.

 

Cheers Jake.

 

That's exactly how I thought it might go... he's good, but a total weirdo...

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If you walked into a bank or building society, damned straight they will ask you politely to remove any facial coverings - it kinda makes them twitchy :) Security reasons...

 

Yet it's considered racist to ask a Muslim woman to remove theirs? How about getting my kids to wear a balaclava at school?

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Yet it's considered racist to ask a Muslim woman to remove theirs? How about getting my kids to wear a balaclava at school?

 

I have no idea where schools stand on things such as balaclavas ;) but I always remember a school uniform code in my school - which they are always fussy about. Also beign a specific Christian church school - items of cultural/religious signifigance didn't factor in to daily life (apart from the odd St. Christopher chain and possibly crucifix chain around peoples necks that you never actually saw), as there are no obvious outstanding specific icons/items of clothing that pertain to the religion that people are expected to wear for the Christian religion. I remember the school uniform policy had to adjust slightly when the school started to admit children from cultures other than Christian backgrounds (I don't want to start any debate about that - it caused chaos back in the day when I was of school age considering how much a PITA it was to actually get into my school as you had to be Christened and Confirmed when I was entering the school system - but change is CHANGE, and we change or we eventually become extinct - human race rocks for its ability to adapt - isn't this adaptation?). If you had a legitimate religious reason for sending your kids to school with balaclavas mate - I for one would not utter a word against you or your beliefs to do so :D:D (I might think it a tad weird - and feel sorry for the abuse your kids may receive, but thats by the by).

 

Is it actually racist to ask a Muslim woman to remove her head gear for identity purposes? It is reminiscent of being a motorcyclists hopping off his bike and wandering intot he bank (forgetting he has his helmet on) being asked nicely to remove it? Does anybody know anything about these interactions - I have NEVER seen a woman in full head gear IN a bank (although I have to admit I don't spend my life in said establishments) - although my other half used to work in one for many years and has no recall of having to ask anyone this question (other than the odd forgetful motorcyclist).

 

Erm, wish I knew the answers.

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Is there any word in english dictionary which would describe antagonism to religion? Term rasism or rasist should be used in colour skin context I belive, not religion. Mind you, I do not have nothing against skin colour, but i'm really against any kind of religion fanatism or even "showing off". I belive this do not make me rasist in any way.

 

@sdavies

I belive Koran allows women to uncover face and hands, so this crap about burkhas is just some idiotic man idea.

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Is there any word in english dictionary which would describe antagonism to religion? Term rasism or rasist should be used in colour skin context I belive, not religion. Mind you, I do not have nothing against skin colour, but i'm really against any kind of religion fanatism or even "showing off". I belive this do not make me rasist in any way.

 

@sdavies

I belive Koran allows women to uncover face and hands, so this crap about burkhas is just some idiotic man idea.

 

That is a bloody good question - I am not sure off the top of my head if there is a specific - religion'ist type of term -the closest we tend to come in normal usage of descriptive terms is sectarianism:

See: Sectarianism

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Sectarianism refers (usually pejoratively) to a rigid adherence to a particular sect or party or denomination. It often implies discrimination, denunciation, or violence against those outside the sect.

 

And yes - I believe the whole covering of the woman idea is man based (then again all of the "holy" books are written by men, but that is something for a WHOLE different theological debate), not religion based - I read it somewhere and saw some woman giving some chap a bloody good hiding over it on the net somewhere - if I can find it I will link it.

 

Racism is a nasty term that *is* being used way too much in a slightly wrong way. Islam is the main target here that tends to be discussed, and afaik it isn't just a religion but a way of life that people adhere to (just like being a Buddhist etc - not quite a religion just a way of thinking - Islamic ideas I do not agree with but *TOLERATE* - as any human being should) - hence they do not exclude other cultures from joiniing Islam - in fact I believe Islamic folk EMBRACE anyone into their culture. Not saying it is the right way to go, and I obviously am not Islamic/Muslim - a tad on the "atheist so prove it I am a scientist" - bench.

 

I wish people could just get along. I dislike weird rules that make no logical sense - and would never go along with them willingly. I accept peoples rights to follow said weird rules though, as long as they do not hurt me, my friends, and people around me - and anybody that doesn't believe in those rules.

 

Play nice people, is it too much to ask?

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Racism is a nasty term that *is* being used way too much in a slightly wrong way. Islam is the main target here that tends to be discussed, and afaik it isn't just a religion but a way of life that people adhere to (just like being a Buddhist etc - not quite a religion just a way of thinking - Islamic ideas I do not agree with but *TOLERATE* - as any human being should) - hence they do not exclude other cultures from joiniing Islam - in fact I believe Islamic folk EMBRACE anyone into their culture.

 

AGREE - 100%

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- I have NEVER seen a woman in full head gear IN a bank (although I have to admit I don't spend my life in said establishments) - although my other half used to work in one for many years and has no recall of having to ask anyone this question (other than the odd forgetful motorcyclist).

 

Erm, wish I knew the answers.

 

U have never been to Prston then! i was in Natwest on Wednesday and there were 4 women in there with full gear on. three together and one with her husband who looked normal as anything incidently! the one with her husband was at the Customer service bit, the banker had to learn straight in to hear what she was saying, it looked really awkward for the female banker, she couldnt really hear her and couldnt seen even her eyes.

 

80% of language is transmitted through body langauge, most of it through facial expressions......................... words are only like 10%.

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80% of language is transmitted through body langauge, most of it through facial expressions......................... words are only like 10%.

 

Are you sure about that? Where did that get published? Seems like the telephone system manages very well if that is the case. :blink:

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Are you sure about that? Where did that get published? Seems like the telephone system manages very well if that is the case. :blink:

 

Argyle (1988) and Merhabain (1968) are two of the more popular theorists on communication:)

 

 

 

BTW - still got your zorst sat here safe and sound:) :)

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