Kranz Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I was expelled at 15. Who would have thought you'd got expelled?? A model citizen now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Who would have thought you'd got expelled?? A model citizen now It was pure comedy, right in the middle of my O Levels. I was accused of something I hadnt done, and along with three others I was sent to get caned. My turn came and I refused to take it. He swung at me and I grabbed the cane out of the housemasters hand and ran off around his desk. Took two of the bastards to pin me down and I took three whelps before I broke free and landed one on him. My dad was on the school board and got them to agree that I'd be allowed to finish the O Levels then f**k off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Under the quantitative reasearch heading are subsumed methodologies theoretically framed by a positivist, empirical social scientific approach to measurement. Qualitative research embraces methodologies that are theoretically framed by critical or interpretivist social science paradigms that emphasise interpretation over measurement. errmmmm yah yah i totally agree...... sorry what did you just say stop being a wuss, the answer is 49 no its not its 52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 What a load of jumped up nonsense. The homework that is. Yeah I'll admit that using correct english is nice, the world is proving that limiting vocabularic content is the way to go. I listened recently to an explanantion of the word f*ck and all its uses. It was tongue in cheek but it showed that in actual fact emotion and inflection within one word is more usefull than a multitude of words. Taking 3000 words to say anything that you could adequately and as descriptively say in 500 words is just pompous and not neccesary really. However until I came to Europe I always had the same attitude towards a classical education. Now I understand that a good understanding of Latin will enable you to learn pretty much any European language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how_supra Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 All the long words in the world won't mean sh*t when all a degree will get you is a job in a call-centre. I have a degree and I've NEVER worked in a call centre. Sweeping generalisations will get you into trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 correct. Unfortunately that would not fulfill the full 3000 words required for the essay to pass. Sad but true. Plus you have to justify your answer not just say it as it is, without justification your answer is just an assumption to the acedemic world. Just be grateful I didn't put the entire essay up Hard work it is too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how_supra Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Yeah it is, and thats the point. Anyone who says a degree is a waste of time knows nothing about it. No one says college is a waste of time, so I don't get it, whats the difference? Its a personal choice at the end of the day. Whether you choose to do a degree or not, no one route is better than the other. Some people find their degree's have helped them in their careers, others not, but thats the same in any aspect of life. Likewise people do degrees of all different types, for different reasons, and it pisses me off, when people jump to conclusions about degrees and their worth. They are what they are, and you apply them in different ways, everyone is different. I for one wouldn't be where I am now, had I not spent 4 years of my life [3 years + 1 year undergraduate placement], working hard. Edit: and no I didn't jump through the ranks, I worked my up over three years [i now run my own department, have responsibility for 5 million pounds worth of company spend]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 26, 2006 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 Ouch, I've just torn my allegiance:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tannhauser Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I'm dismayed at how readily some of you are willing to dismiss a piece of writing as academic snobbery and slip into a "Hulk no like big words" routine. You don't seem to recognise the possibility that once you've got a little background in that area, it's not difficult to make sense of it. The equivalent would be for me to paste a section from a thread about, say, cam timing and then claim that the writers were being deliberately elitist by using a regular technical vocabuary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 God, I thought teaching essays were hard ! That's even worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Under the quantitative reasearch heading are subsumed methodologies theoretically framed by a positivist, empirical social scientific approach to measurement. Qualitative research embraces methodologies that are theoretically framed by critical or interpretivist social science paradigms that emphasise interpretation over measurement. This is what it's saying, in my view (with a bit of exposition thrown in). There are two main types of social science research. 'Quantitative research' puts an emphasis on gathering numerical information. In doing this, it makes certain assumptions. For example, it assumes that it is possible to gather information about humans in a completely neutral, bias-free way - in the same way as investigating a piece of metal. In other words, it applies the same rules as have been used in Physics, Chemistry and the other 'natural sciences'. This is what is the ' positivist, empirical' approach. 'Qualitative research', by contrast, uses methods that don't fit into that tradition. In the 'critical' or 'interpretivist' ways of approaching social science, there is less emphasis on measurement and more on interpretation. It suggests that it the idea of a completely neutral, bias-free 'scientific' approach is flawed. The author asumes that his readers are familiar with concepts such as the positivist tradition and so can convey the same ideas more economically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how_supra Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I'm dismayed at how readily some of you are willing to dismiss a piece of writing as academic snobbery and slip into a "Hulk no like big words" routine. You don't seem to recognise the possibility that once you've got a little background in that area, it's not difficult to make sense of it. The equivalent would be for me to paste a section from a thread about, say, cam timing and then claim that the writers were being deliberately elitist by using a regular technical vocabuary. Precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I'm dismayed at how readily some of you are willing to dismiss a piece of writing as academic snobbery and slip into a "Hulk no like big words" routine. You don't seem to recognise the possibility that once you've got a little background in that area, it's not difficult to make sense of it. The equivalent would be for me to paste a section from a thread about, say, cam timing and then claim that the writers were being deliberately elitist by using a regular technical vocabuary. That makes perfect sense actually. So what you're saying is any person could do anything despite intelligence if they are taught the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 26, 2006 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 One mans humourous post is another mans cacophany of existentialistic paradigms juxtaposed between a desire to educate and a disinclination to give a rats ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dragonball Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I actually understand that... Combining both practical business knowledge and academic research is actually very interesting and IMHO there is often a very real synergy between the two. Perhaps exponents of the ‘ I Qualified in the University of Life’ attitude are (potentially) limiting self and organisational improvement? I think it is fair to say that most managers today are not given enough time, and encouragement (?) to improve their abilities to manage, and academic writings do represent the benchmarking or best practice identified in real world situations. Without either qualitative or quantitative information to back up these theories most book and journal writings cannot be published (as long as the editor has done his job). I do however, have a healthy distrust of purely qualitative research I am not saying that everyone should be force fed academic management theories right left and centre – but don’t dismiss them out of hand just because the wording could be, shall we say, a little less ‘flowery’ J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I'm dismayed at how readily some of you are willing to dismiss a piece of writing as academic snobbery and slip into a "Hulk no like big words" routine. You don't seem to recognise the possibility that once you've got a little background in that area, it's not difficult to make sense of it. The equivalent would be for me to paste a section from a thread about, say, cam timing and then claim that the writers were being deliberately elitist by using a regular technical vocabuary. Holy toledo batman, where did you spring from ? Glad to see the voice of educated reason is lurking around somewhere to stop me becoming the complete chav I am destined otherwise to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 To summarise your summary: Shit happens. Some of it we know why, some we don't. It doesn't matter how you try to measure it or figure it out, shit still happens correct. Unfortunately that would not fulfill the full 3000 words required for the essay to pass. ... He could have padded it with some more "shits" thrown in for good measure to make up the 3000 words I did a degree at Uni, then did a HND at College....and I paid my way through by working in a call centre no less lol (BT Chargecard Support Dept). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Holy toledo batman, where did you spring from ? Glad to see the voice of educated reason is lurking around somewhere to stop me becoming the complete chav I am destined otherwise to be Plenty of lurking, and occasionally posting now....when I can't resist it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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