Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Jane asked for some help with an essay for her Uni course. Obviously I wanted to help, until I started reading the text she had to draw conclusions from... WTF:d Heres a taster... Under the quantitative reasearch heading are subsumed methodologies theoretically framed by a positivist, empirical social scientific approach to measurement. Qualitative research embraces methodologies that are theoretically framed by critical or interpretivist social science paradigms that emphasise interpretation over measurement. I thought Media Studies was a walk in the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 When my girlfriend (now wife) was at Uni she did a social science degree. I tried to help her too! Within about 30 seconds I was worried that this girl is a bit too clever for me. Then again being clever is one thing! If she had any "common sense" she'd have left me years ago.!! I find it easier to stick to reading porn and car magazines! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Yup, some of those words made my brain itch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how_supra Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I did a very similar essay at University - research methods assignment - we had to pick a current journal article and analyse it. I still have it................I just read it again, I had to read it twice. here is what I concluded, it made sense when I wrote it three or four years ago. So at one end of the scale sits empiricism with extreme logical consequences, as it aims to bring knowledge and “no amount of speculation can be deemed as knowledge”(Haralambos 1995). Then on the opposite end, sits those who believe that it is not possible to objectively measure and classify the world, as there is “no objective reality beyond the subjective meaning”, which is why the term phenomenology is often attributed to interpretivism (Haralambos 1995). It is fair to say therefore, that there are two types of knowledge: matters of fact, how things are though observation and experiment, and knowledge of logic and mathematics – not about the world at all. I maintain that interpretative and qualitative approaches should be used to supplement positivist methodology, as suggested initially, a view also held by Popper (Popper 1959) who believes that research should be scientific, but deductive as opposed to inductive. The two approaches work well together, as positivism is useful for elaborating whether and how strongly phenomena may be connected to each other, and interpretivists are more concerned with why. Although the journal article in this instance takes largely a positivist stance, there are some trace elements of interpretivism associated with the research undertaken, therefore, I conclude that no viable empirical research can neatly fit into a positivist or interpretivist view of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I did a very similar essay at University - research methods assignment - we had to pick a current journal article and analyse it. I still have it................I just read it again, I had to read it twice. here is what I concluded, it made sense when I wrote it three or four years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 I read it all Sabrina, every gorgeous word of it:) Scary thing is, it makes more sense to my wife than me...I hate it when she has one up on me:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Its just the Uni being wordsmith snobs. Whatever happened to plain English. It's intellectual snobbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Another worrying thread title, I thought you'd gone a bit "Jerry Lee-Lewis" there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Another worrying thread title, I thought you'd gone a bit "Jerry Lee-Lewis" there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I did a very similar essay at University - research methods assignment - we had to pick a current journal article and analyse it. I still have it................I just read it again, I had to read it twice. here is what I concluded, it made sense when I wrote it three or four years ago. To summarise your summary: Shit happens. Some of it we know why, some we don't. It doesn't matter how you try to measure it or figure it out, shit still happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Restorer Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Computer says No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how_supra Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 To summarise your summary: Shit happens. Some of it we know why, some we don't. It doesn't matter how you try to measure it or figure it out, shit still happens correct. Unfortunately that would not fulfill the full 3000 words required for the essay to pass. Sad but true. Plus you have to justify your answer not just say it as it is, without justification your answer is just an assumption to the acedemic world. Just be grateful I didn't put the entire essay up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Why is she doing Media Studies Ewen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 lol @ homework!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Why is she doing Media (and Film) Studies Ewen? She'd had enough of working, wanted to do something different and shes always been interested in that sort of thing. Maybe something will come of it, maybe not, but shes happy, so I am too:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 She'd had enough of working, wanted to do something different and shes always been interested in that sort of thing. Maybe something will come of it, maybe not, but shes happy, so I am too:) Does she have any idea of what she wants to do afterwards? Good on her for doing something about not liking working, most people just carry on and moan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 All the long words in the world won't mean sh*t when all a degree will get you is a job in a call-centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 All the long words in the world won't mean sh*t when all a degree will get you is a job in a call-centre. each to their own n that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Does she have any idea of what she wants to do afterwards? Good on her for doing something about not liking working, most people just carry on and moan. All the long words in the world won't mean sh*t when all a degree will get you is a job in a call-centre. each to their own n that! No, possibly, I feel your pain, couldnt agree more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Sorry, didn't mean to cause any offense. Just interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 All the long words in the world won't mean sh*t when all a degree will get you is a job in a call-centre. I would agree.. I worked for Orange in a call centre for two years before I did a Masters.. and that two years taught me more than both the degrees... It does nothing for you but I do think it's expected for working in business... That said, if I had my time again I'd be a sparky/plumber.. those blokes rake it in and non of the office politics.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Sorry, didn't mean to cause any offense. Just interested. No Charlotte, IM sorry...didnt mean that to come across as sharp. But in all honesty, she doesnt really know what she wants out of it. Its more a hobby at the moment, as was her A Level in Performing Arts. Shes done a bit for the BBCs Peoples War web site and other stuff along similar lines. As for packing in her job, we have lost a wage, but I've found a happier and younger version of Mrs. Ewen since. Apart from the fact she didnt actually tell me she'd left work for a few months (I rang her work once to ask her to pick daughter up, her supervisor said she'd left, I asked had she taken an afternoon off, the supervior said no, she'd left three months ago:d) we are managing ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gzaerojon Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Jane asked for some help with an essay for her Uni course. Obviously I wanted to help, until I started reading the text she had to draw conclusions from... WTF:d Heres a taster... Under the quantitative reasearch heading are subsumed methodologies theoretically framed by a positivist, empirical social scientific approach to measurement. Qualitative research embraces methodologies that are theoretically framed by critical or interpretivist social science paradigms that emphasise interpretation over measurement. I thought Media Studies was a walk in the park. stop being a wuss, the answer is 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 No Charlotte, IM sorry...didnt mean that to come across as sharp. But in all honesty, she doesnt really know what she wants out of it. Its more a hobby at the moment, as was her A Level in Performing Arts. Shes done a bit for the BBCs Peoples War web site and other stuff along similar lines. As for packing in her job, we have lost a wage, but I've found a happier and younger version of Mrs. Ewen since. Apart from the fact she didnt actually tell me she'd left work for a few months (I rang her work once to ask her to pick daughter up, her supervisor said she'd left, I asked had she taken an afternoon off, the supervior said no, she'd left three months ago:d) we are managing ok. She sounds a lot like me. I'm forever changing my mind of what I want to do but it's always around the writing/photography/acting mark if that makes any sense. It's very fulfilling doing what makes you happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 All the long words in the world won't mean sh*t when all a degree will get you is a job in a call-centre. I was expelled at 15, went through an apprenticeship, got a placement as a junior then climbed the ranks. I'm getting loads of applications from lads with a squillion more qualifications than I have, but absolutely no experience in the field they have studied for years in the hope that one day they will get a job. So many applicants, the policy is to shortlist them according to qualifications...those without, but possibly better suited due to their work experience or plain love of boats, are passed over. Not my policy, but the rules I abide by. It makes far more sense to get qualifications WHILST learning a trade or proffession, but these days almost impossible. My son will have to play this lottery four years on and after getting thousands of pounds in debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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