JustGav Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 because the us gvmnt categorises the risk factor,. iraq had a higher risk factor., currently were at cold war stasus with n korea. Hold on, a second.... How can iraq have a higher risk factor than NKorea... Iraq had supposed WMD's. NK have, and have proved it by blowing one of those stupid things up. If they were at cold war status that would be direct threat of war.. I mean come on, small little guy with a chip on his shoulder (which I can associate with being short myself before DB says anything) and his finger on the trigger of something very nasty which can go BOOOOOOOM... I reckon that is a serious ass threat that I wouldn't want to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 they said it last nite on the news.... but you prob dont like western news as it prob makes you so angry And which flavour of news are you watching? Media is just as much responsible for the way most people react because news is crafted by fine craftsmen to make it marketable, as bad as bloody politicians *grin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 it was costing them 1 billion $ a week to fund the conflict ? it was something like that amount. Yep : $200,000,000 per day minimum http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Yep : $200,000,000 per day minimum http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/ thats a more realistic figure jake thanks ,. in march this year the cost had climbed to : $378 billion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 And which flavour of news are you watching? Media is just as much responsible for the way most people react because news is crafted by fine craftsmen to make it marketable, as bad as bloody politicians *grin* So true.. media companies have their own political adgendas and have had for years. The problem is no one knows for sure whats going on unless they have first hand experience, and finding someone who has that from all sides that isnt politically involved is near impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 they said it last nite on the news.... but you prob dont like western news as it prob makes you so angry You seem to know a lot about me........are you stalking me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hold on, a second.... How can iraq have a higher risk factor than NKorea... Iraq had supposed WMD's. NK have, and have proved it by blowing one of those stupid things up. If they were at cold war status that would be direct threat of war.. I mean come on, small little guy with a chip on his shoulder (which I can associate with being short myself before DB says anything) and his finger on the trigger of something very nasty which can go BOOOOOOOM... I reckon that is a serious ass threat that I wouldn't want to have. look at the situation with Russia in the 70`s and 80`s. yet there wasnt a war,. they do take risk factors into account,. Iraq had a low risk factor of winning,. hence we "liberated" them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 The problem is no one knows for sure whats going on unless they have first hand experience, and finding someone who has that from all sides that isnt politically involved is near impossible. Well, you can ask the families of those that are being effected. fairly easy to start with the familes of our troops wouldnt you say? Why dont the Government officials send their kids over to fight these wars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 hence we "liberated" them.... Darren.....thats a classic.....for the love of God please stop...I'll choke myself laughing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 look at the situation with Russia in the 70`s and 80`s. yet there wasnt a war,. they do take risk factors into account,. Iraq had a low risk factor of winning,. hence we "liberated" them.... You will come over to our side, the force is strong on you but you must turn..... hahahaha, just kidding. What I am saying however is Iraq was motivated by much more than WMD. My personal view is that it was motivated by the oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Why dont the Government officials send their kids over to fight these wars? cos its quite possible being a soldier isnt the decided career for there kids ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 You will come over to our side, the force is strong on you but you must turn..... hahahaha, just kidding. What I am saying however is Iraq was motivated by much more than WMD. My personal view is that it was motivated by the oil. the oil thing has allready been foo fard,. look back at the cost ? $378 billion upto march this year ... by the end of 2008 it will be double that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Well, you can ask the families of those that are being effected. fairly easy to start with the familes of our troops wouldnt you say? Why dont the Government officials send their kids over to fight these wars? Yeah, I don't see harry or william rushing out to be on the frontline rows with the boys (I'm not fond of the monarchy either really, so that is politicians, media and now monarchy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Well, you can ask the families of those that are being effected. fairly easy to start with the familes of our troops wouldnt you say? Why dont the Government officials send their kids over to fight these wars? They join the armed forces, it comes with the terriory doesnt it. and politicians want their kids in different roles at the end of the day... having said that the Royal Family tend to have a military tradition.. but I dont want to comment on how close to any real fighting they would get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Yeah, I don't see harry or william rushing out to be on the frontline rows with the boys (I'm not fond of the monarchy either really, so that is politicians, media and now monarchy) prince william is going out on active service ., he is in training now for it, also prince andrew was in the falklands war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Yeah, I don't see harry or william rushing out to be on the frontline rows with the boys (I'm not fond of the monarchy either really, so that is politicians, media and now monarchy) Pheonix - leave those two nancy boys alone - they are good for the tourists What about the B-Lair drunken lad, why doesnt he serve the forces? I'm sure the other MP have kids too...... "the mother of stupid is always pregnant." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Yeah, I don't see harry or william rushing out to be on the frontline rows with the boys (I'm not fond of the monarchy either really, so that is politicians, media and now monarchy) Actually Harry is desperate to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Pheonix - leave those two nancy boys alone - they are good for the tourists shouldnt say that mate,im a monarchist. saying that is like me insulting alha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Oh yeah, and why don't we invade the 7 emirites? they are control by 7 dictators (although democractical voted in everytime)... oh yeah because then the politicians would have nowhere to chill and play golf.... PS : The above was said purely in humour so laugh damn it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Maybe it was about oil, but without oil our economy / society comes to a standstill. Without it nothing moves. If there was a danger of that happening, perhaps B&B felt compelled to act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Pheonix - leave those two nancy boys alone - they are good for the tourists shouldnt say that mate,im a monarchist. saying that is like me insulting alha. Yeah, that is true, can't knock Harry.... his only fault was getting caught smoking a joint, which I must admit did make me chuckle to see him doing normal kid stuff rather than being wrapped up in cotton wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Pheonix - leave those two nancy boys alone - they are good for the tourists Yeah, that is true, can't knock Harry.... his only fault was getting caught smoking a joint, which I must admit did make me chuckle to see him doing normal kid stuff rather than being wrapped up in cotton wool. yeh man william & harry are decent lads,there mother was a true and proper princess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Maybe it was about oil, but without oil our economy / society comes to a standstill. Without it nothing moves. If there was a danger of that happening, perhaps B&B felt compelled to act. Great logic there buddy. If YOU need something that someone else OWNS and lets say that they were NOT willing to give it to YOU, YOU would then go ahead and do whatever it takes to get hold of it. Isnt that called THEFT? Why do they call it a WAR, its a flippin INVASION? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 yeh man william & harry are decent lads,there mother was a true and proper princess. I'll definitely give you that one, because as a person she was fantastic with all her charity work, for that noone can knock the hope she gave people. However she was fed a very raw deal as well by being victim to a unconfirmed accident. However what benefits (apart from tourism) do the other members of monarchy provide, yes they may do the odd charity thing but they don't really do anything apart from attend posh do's every now and then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Difference between a war and an invasion depends on which side you are on dude. If you are invading its a war, if you are invaded then its an invasion but no-one cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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