Gamer Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 OK, my friend, think about it this way. how many do you believe carry that view? BEFORE 2001 And NOW There is your answer. The solution to the problem is at the cause not the effect. People like you tend to focus on the effect which will never solve anything. On the same token how many people do you think share the views of the BNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupra Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 We also live in a time that asian militia stand on british streets calling for a war on the very citizens they live next door to. The coin has two sides my freind. These fu*kers should be stuck on a C130 an dropped off where ever they want to be, cause surely they dont want to be here if they hate the place an the people so much. There's freedom of speech, but there's also the freedom to get on a plane an f*ck off out of it, no one's forcing them to be here, an there not wanted either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 These fu*kers should be stuck on a C130 an dropped off where ever they want to be, cause surely they dont want to be here if they hate the place an the people so much. There's freedom of speech, but there's also the freedom to get on a plane an f*ck off out of it, no one's forcing them to be here, an there not wanted either. Agree with what you are saying...although not with such an agressive tone. So a bit more civilised from my side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Dude please don't "people like you" me. Check back on most of these threads and see who is the guy that tries to put the more truthfull message across. I have every sympathy for the people affected by the current situation, that is both sides. I have been to AFghanistan and Iraq and seen for myself what was going on. I had a very hard time dealing with my morals over my proffesionalism whilst sitting on the Kuwaiti border waiting to go into Iraq. Just to set you straight I so firmly beleived that there were no WMDs that I point blank refused to take any of the preventive anti biological and chemical medication. I had a stand up argument with a medical officer when they tried to foist the anthrax jabs on me. Don't assume that all non muslim Brits are against you and I won't assume that all semi tanned individuals are imminently gonna fly a plane into me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupra Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Agree with what you are saying...although not with such an agressive tone. So a bit more civilised from my side Thats fair enough, I have been known to be a lil agressive . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Thats fair enough, I have been known to be a lil agressive . That'll be the para in you. Been down the fives lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Dude please don't "people like you" me. Check back on most of these threads and see who is the guy that tries to put the more truthfull message across. I have every sympathy for the people affected by the current situation, that is both sides. I have been to AFghanistan and Iraq and seen for myself what was going on. I had a very hard time dealing with my morals over my proffesionalism whilst sitting on the Kuwaiti border waiting to go into Iraq. Just to set you straight I so firmly beleived that there were no WMDs that I point blank refused to take any of the preventive anti biological and chemical medication. I had a stand up argument with a medical officer when they tried to foist the anthrax jabs on me. Don't assume that all non muslim Brits are against you and I won't assume that all semi tanned individuals are imminently gonna fly a plane into me Good post. I didnt mean that comment that way. Anyway, I stand corrected. BTW: I'm not semi-tanned, I am RIGHTLY Tanned, my complexion is perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Good post. I didnt mean that comment that way. Anyway, I stand corrected. BTW: I'm not semi-tanned, I am RIGHTLY Tanned, my complexion is perfect Man I haven't laughed so hard in ages..... I knew you had a sense of humour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupra Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 That'll be the para in you. Been down the fives lately? Not for a bit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I still don't get this thread or what it's point is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I still don't get this thread or what it's point is. http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~shemesh/1159434782588vh5.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Oooooooooooooo...... K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 No, it was Darren Dermott - dirty little man, he used to eat books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 OK, my friend, think about it this way. how many do you believe carry that view? BEFORE 2001 And NOW There is your answer. The solution to the problem is at the cause not the effect. People like you tend to focus on the effect which will never solve anything. Imi I have held some very strong views long before then, I am not a racist, but fanatical religious extremists frighten the hell out of me, they totally believe they are right and anyother way is wrong and should not be tolerated. When you were 8 years old I was working in an inner city Muslim community, within which I had many friends. But what scared me most was the Mosque committees selection of Imams. They always appeared to be from really rural and radical areas. These guys hated the Western way of life. The indoctrination of the young was appalling in certain areas. As the MI5 boss said this will last a generation, I believe she is right. It has already started, British born Muslims indoctrinated by fanatics grow up to become bitter twist individuals full of hate for the western way of life, their own way of life in many cases. The kids I knew are now the age of the 7/7 bombers. I remember just before the first Iraq invasion. Some of the kids chanting all this a stuff about death to Americans. Their teacher was an American and because they new him and he was not in the mould of the vision of an American implanted in their brains, they would chat to him about what they had been told. Even though he was American he was so far removed from what they though an American should be they just could not make the link. I am not saying that every one of those kids will be successfully brainwashed in to killing indiscriminately, but it only needs a very low success rate to become effective as a weapon of terror. So what I am saying is this is the cause of the terrorism we are seeing today. The master plan was engineered long before the first Iraq war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Term, you've added to my beliefs (expressed in part in a previous thread). I've never been racist either, my best friend when I lived in London was called Yatish! But I can't help thinking sometimes we're being infiltrated slowly!! We know there are (have been) Muslims living here openly showing their hate for the country on the news! I'm glad that MI6 only take on people who have 3 generations of British citizenship above them, but even this will soon not be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 I'm glad that MI6 only take on people who have 3 generations of British citizenship above them, but even this will soon not be enough. Not the case with MI5 I see where Termi is coming from and have experienced that myself and cant condone it. What Bushair has done since 9/11 has resulted in the creation of a fertile ground to recruit more "terrorists".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 The UK was also involved in the invasion of mainly Christian countries (a lot of Yugoslavia for example) but that spawned no new 'terrorists' How's that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 How's that then? Suppose you have the answer...... Good to see that no-one (country) is admitting that they are at fault (or had a contribution) and have plans to work together to come up with a peaceful solution to the problems - its as if, its in their interest to maintain this global unrest (middle-east crisis being the main one)....oops....was I not supposed to say that http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6186624.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 Who gives a toss about your sanctions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 And you think Iran should have nuclear capabilities because ? Of course Iran is a peace loving country who has never waged war on their neighbors ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 And you think Iran should have nuclear capabilities because ? One of their neighboring countries (complete imbalance of power in that region) has most of its nuclear warheads pointed at it (mind you they kept their nuclear weapons capability quiet for 18 yrs until one of their own people leaked the news out). So surely from a defensive point of view they have every right to develop nuclear weapons (not that they are doing that ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 One of their neighboring countries (complete imbalance of power in that region) has most of its nuclear warheads pointed at it (mind you they kept their nuclear weapons capability quiet for 18 yrs until one of their own people leaked the news out). So surely from a defensive point of view they have every right to develop nuclear weapons (not that they are doing that ) That makes all the sense in the world, let everyone have nuclear weapons and let's see who presses the button first. As I said the Iranian government is not what one would call stable. The claim by the Iranians as for the need is also rubbish. Iran responds by saying that Western opposition to its nuclear energy programme is politically-motivated, since there was no opposition to the Bushehr nuclear power plant project when it started before the 1979 revolution with German involvement. Iran also maintains that if it can use nuclear power to meet some of its domestic energy needs, it will be able to export more oil and generate more foreign currency revenue. I suspect one day IMI, you might find that you backed the wrong Horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 That makes all the sense in the world, let everyone have nuclear weapons and let's see who presses the button first. As I said the Iranian government is not what one would call stable. The claim by the Iranians as for the need is also rubbish. I suspect one day IMI, you might find that you backed the wrong Horse. 1 -Who are WE to LET anyone have or not have nuclear weapons. 2- What makes it OK for us have nuclear weapons 3- What makes an illegal terrorist state in the middle east have nuclear weapons and us continuing to support it. 4- We have Pakistan that has illegally acquired nuclear weapons and WE continue supporting them (congratulating them). Same goes with India & N Korea (funny we dont hear much about them anymore) At the end of th day, it's about protecting OUR own interests - so hypocrisy is rife. As long as the public see them for what they are and don't allow the govt to pull the wool over our eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Imi, I agree with your points about us ruling them when it basically shouldn't be our decision (same way I don't agree with us bowing down to UN regs on human rights all the time), and they should be allowed to defend themselves yes, BUT I don't like the way he says "The resolution passed on Saturday was a 'piece of paper' and the 15 countries who voted in favour would regret it!", I mean OMG!!! He's basically saying we will make weapons we don't care what you lot say, and because you voted against us we'll blow you to bits when we're done!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 It's all a conspiracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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