michael Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 They do indeed:Pling: Thanks for confirming that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 My apology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGCB1cQDJsM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 My apology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGCB1cQDJsM Ho Ho, a typical michael response, so witty so clever. How about getting back on topic and discussing "Do poppies cost anything" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 this has gone a bit sour hasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I don't think they have a specific price, you just give a donation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 There seems to be a negative response from some quarters here, that those who CHOSE to join the Armed Forces do it purely for monetary gain. I never said that. If the ultimate sacrifice that a soldier has to make is his life, then why shouldn't the country/government pick up the pieces and give his family support. The government should. Members of the public should not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I suspect we would be, just with a more efficient government, a wider selection of sausages, more good beers, a better transport system and no sense of humour. And M5 estates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Warriors have always been paid!! Gladiators were supreme warriors, but were slaves and got paid fuck all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 What if I said soldiers always got paid as well as lawyers or IT consultants or engineers, and I havent seen anywhere here people grumbling about being shot!! There seems to be a negative response from some quarters here, that those who CHOSE to join the Armed Forces do it purely for monetary gain. I joined the Forces in the early 1970s because I wanted to serve my country and learn a trade. If the ultimate sacrifice that a soldier has to make is his life, then why shouldn't the country/government pick up the pieces and give his family support. Times have changed and society nowadays is a "stuff you I'm alright" which IMHO is very sad! Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I never said that. The government should. Members of the public should not. I don't really want to get into an argument - I've only been a member for a week after all - so I'll stay away from some of the comments that have been made. But..... This doesn't make any sense. The government is funded by taxes. If the government pays, we all pay - without choice. If members of the public pay - by buying poppies etc. - it's personal choice, and if you disagree with it, you don't need to take part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Lol I've sure seen the world. The real shitty parts of the world where people were killing each other over less than the price of a cup of tea. Wether or not its our national responsibility to be there or not is a whole other issue. I'll say it again as some seem not to have noticed. When I joined up at the ripe age of 16 the thing furthest from my mind was getting shot at. The rosy pictures of guys on exped in glamourous locations and a job for life is all I saw. The same goes for a great many 16 year olds that join up and find themselves in the muck our government seem determined to put us in all the time. Again I will say there are charities for poor bears in india and horses in africa etc etc and they are allowed to ask for money to assist them so why is it that when the people, actual human beings, from this country receiving scorn for asking for money when the rosy picture gets painted with their blood and entire families are left dessimated by events that this government insisted on getting involved in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I'll say it again as some seem not to have noticed. When I joined up at the ripe age of 16 the thing furthest from my mind was getting shot at. The rosy pictures of guys on exped in glamourous locations and a job for life is all I saw. The same goes for a great many 16 year olds that join up and find themselves in the muck our government seem determined to put us in all the time. Are you really that naive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Are you really that naive? At the age of 16 and joining the RAF yes I was that naive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 At the age of 16 and joining the RAF Oh no,,, not another one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 The sheer fact that we can have this conversation (all be it on the internet) and the people who do not agree whith the Gov. dont get dragged away to a camp, torchered and then shot in the back of the head shows that the Armed Forces of this country works. That you can read, thank a teacher. That you can read in English, thank a Soldier. Just think, if after WW2 the Armed Forces were totally disbanded then we would all be speaking in Russian, with the USSR still in charge of most of Europe and us, because we would not have been able to stop any invasion. I dont agree with your selfish 'They joined up so feck em' attitude, but I was and am still willing to fight for your right to say it! Bet your not. Especially if it is someone saying something you dont agree with or that really winds you up. Would you fight to defend that person, or thier right to be a complete chopper? Thought not. Thats the difference. I joined up to defend the rights of freedom in this country (the fact this present Gov. are removing them faster than we notice has not been lost either) where as you dwell in this country and add no value to it, just take. I dont know you, and with your attitude, I dont want to know you. I left the Army and joined the Fire Brigade, if your house was burning and you were trapped I would still risk MY life to try and save you. Not because I like you, or because it is only my job (remember I 'chose' to do it) but because you needed saving. When a jet fighter fly's over your head on 11th of the 11, dont think.. 'Noisy thing!' Think instead 'That is the noise of Freedom'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Oh no,,, not another one I'll only say one thing to that Airforce rise above the rest!!!! Actually 2 points how many medals have you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Yeah but you fly fly byrilcreamboys got yours for wiping windscreens. Anyway, isnt the RAF being re-named... as.... Wait for it..... Utterly Utterly Useless Crab Air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Yeah but you fly fly byrilcreamboys got yours for wiping windscreens. Anyway, isnt the RAF being re-named... as.... Wait for it..... Utterly Utterly Useless Crab Air. I think you have that a bit wrong chap... We got them for drinking heavily in various exotic locations Hah I wish. NI wasn't too bad behind our fence I have to admit. But manning POE in Bosnia was no fun neither was running convoy out there. I did 4 stints out there in bosnia but mostly Croatia (I'll be fair here the marines from Poole were out there a year and a half before we went in to give you a lift). I "missed out" on Kosovo and the shittiest one of all Sierra Leone. But at the termination of my career I crammed in a quick 6 monther in Bagram Afghanistan and Gulf war the sequel (the sequel we were actually the first guys on the ground in Al Amarah (the place those RMPs got slotted) which was technically speaking still behind enemy lines at the time). If you read Mr Mcnabs book and look at the photo's in it you'll see quite a lot of guys in those pictures I know, all of which are RAF techies:D Oh an PS if we didn't give you a lift to war and make sure no-one dropped unpleasantness on your head you couldn't go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I'll only say one thing to that Airforce rise above the rest!!!! Actually 2 points how many medals have you got? First thing i would like to add. Isn't the RAF the biggest april fools joke, of all the dates the currant RAF was formed, they had to pick that date lol I have two Gongs by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I dont agree with your selfish 'They joined up so feck em' attitude, but I was and am still willing to fight for your right to say it! Are you stupid? They were forced to join up due to the very real threat to our country. And I wholeheartedly support them. Which I've said time and time again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Are you stupid? They were forced to join up due to the very real threat to our country. And I wholeheartedly support them. Which I've said time and time again. He is talking about your remarks against anyone who is in the forces now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Don't know why I did not think of this earlier. To the ones who are against anyone who has joined the Armed forces in recent times,,and have lost their life etc, All i ask you is this. Go out and find a poppy seller, he/she will more likely have served in ww 2, as they will have a chest full of medals. say to them how much you respect them for what they have done etc, then tell them that you think it is wrong for the poppy appeal to help out the recent disabled service men/women or help out the wifes/husbands/kids of men/women who have been killed in action. See what their reaction will be, and don't be surprised if they chin you. I have not long been on the phone to my grandad, see how he and my Nan are getting on, i have read out some of the comments on this thread (he served in Africa etc) his response was this " Son, just ignore the twats,, they know f#ck all" this will be my last post to this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I'll take you up on that and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Are you stupid? They were forced to join up due to the very real threat to our country. And I wholeheartedly support them. Which I've said time and time again. No, but you obviously either 1. Are stupid or 2. Dont bother to read posts. Possibly down to a lack of respect to the postee. As I said, I dont agree with your attitude or point of view, BUT as this is a free country, made that way and kept that way by the Armed Services, you have that right, as I do for not agreeing with you. The point I was making (which was obviously lost on you as well) is that I and so many others from 1945 to now are willing to put our all, our live's and our families well being in harm's way to keep that right, that FREEDOM that you so enjoy. And I would place money on the fact you you are not. So, because of that, dont you think that once a year putting a pound in a jar and wearing a poppy to support and say thanks to the men, women and children who have helped in making this freedom you love and use possible is not too much to ask? Then again, judging by your posts, yes it probably is. Satnav.... Only 2, you NIG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 2 medals is that all??? I have 7 medals read it and weep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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