DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hi, I asked this in Supra Chat, but then realised it's the wrong place. Doh! I've just been to view an N/A '97 Supra. In general, it looked and drove fine - however, there was one issue. The clutch was pretty heavy - enough so that when I first got into the car and put my foot on it, I thought I'd mistakenly put my foot on the brake. It also made a clear creaking sound as I pushed it in. Years ago I had a TT Supra and I don't remember the clutch being heavy on that. My 911 previously had a heavy clutch and that meant it was pretty old. I had it replaced in May of this year and now it is sooooo light. So - does this simply mean the car needs a new clutch - or could it be a sign of something else? And why the creaking (wasn't from the pedals I don't think - sounded like it came from under the car). Assuming it means it needs a new clutch - what would the cost of having a clutch fitted be (at a reputable indpendent, not a Toyota garage). I liked the car - but don't want to buy a problem. If it just needs a new clutch, then I would still proceed - but only if the price reflected the fact that it needs one. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Was there no signs of it slipping or anything when you drove it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 No - no slippage at all. But, that was also the case on my 911. In 5 years, it never slipped just got heavy enough that it began to annoy me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yeh, id go with your initial thoughts as you seem to have experienced it on the 911. Id just factor it into the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dave i have a 98 NA and am in surrey if you want another pedal to press and compare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 What is the price of a clutch on a Supra? On the 911 it's £1200 'cos they have to take the engine out. I'm assuming it will be a bit cheaper for this car...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dave i have a 98 NA and am in surrey if you want another pedal to press and compare? Thanks. I'm actually going back to see it again with the g/f tonight - so depending where you are in Surrey it might not be possible (I'm Camberley, the Supra is Basingstoke). It's heavy enough that I'm sure it needs something (and it shouldn't make a creaking noise anyway!) - I'm just a little worried it might be more than just a replacement. Plus - I'm obviously a bit reluctant to buy a car and immediately have to replace the clutch unless I can knock that much off the cost of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 The clutch should not feel heavy, if it is then its either got an uprated one or there's a fault. I can;t see an NA having an uprated clutch - at least not one thats going to be significantly heavier than stock. Stock clutches and flywheels (usually those thave ot be replaced too) are around £450 for the TT, I imagine the NA is similar. Install just needs the gearbox out so not a major job, I think I was charged 3 hours the last time. Do you know the name of the seller, might well be someone from here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Seller is Paul Kemshaw. Car is here : http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/92262.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 pretty sure he was/is a memebr on here......will try and search out a user name and any interesting info............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Could be the clutch slave cylinder needs replacing causing the heavy feeling. The creaking could be in the pedal mechanism itself or in the clutch fork / release bearing assembly. Probably just needs greased! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Well, I hope it's nothing too serious 'cos I just bought a 97 NA supra. Collect it tomorrow - agreed £200 off the price. I drove a different car back there this evening, and the clutch on my g/f's Ka is heavier than the new one in the Porsche, so although the Supra one is still heavy (and creaks) - it didn't feel quite so bad. I always like to get a car serviced after I've bought it so I'll get it investigated then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Paul K... Basingstoke... anyone else thinking what I am? Could just be a coincidence though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Er - should I worry? I haven't paid the money over yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Er - should I worry? I haven't paid the money over yet! hmmmm well he's a banned trader on here if it IS him. What does he look like bud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 He was in his 40s. A little over weight. Not the prettiest guy in the world. I would be surprised if it is him. He says he has owned the car for 5 years - I've not checked the log book yet (I told him I'd check the paperwork tomorrow before handing the cash over) - but if he's really had the car that long then I assume it is a private sale (which it is supposed to be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Don't think it's him mate. Someone else will verify tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 That doesn't sound like Slowdog Dave, good luck with the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Good. One of the main reasons I'm happy the sale is going through - I was beginning to browse the TT ads. If the car didn't look look, I'm pretty sure I would have started looking at TTs and that's just NOT sensible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Good. One of the main reasons I'm happy the sale is going through - I was beginning to browse the TT ads. If the car didn't look look, I'm pretty sure I would have started looking at TTs and that's just NOT sensible! On the contrary, it's very sensible. In a year or so you'll be looking to sell on your N/A to buy a TT, wishing you'd bought one in the 1st place. Also, TT's seem to be around half the price to insure Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Seller is Paul Kemshaw. Car is here : http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/92262.htm Paul K... Basingstoke... anyone else thinking what I am? You're thinking of Paul Kent. Dave, just to put your mind at rest this is Paul K the banned trader from Basingstoke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Jake, can you get hold of passports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Only if the passport holder is silly enough to post a scan of it on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 28, 2006 Author Share Posted October 28, 2006 Thanks - definitely not the same person. On the contrary, it's very sensible. In a year or so you'll be looking to sell on your N/A to buy a TT, wishing you'd bought one in the 1st place. Also, TT's seem to be around half the price to insure Cheers, Brian. If I didn't have the 911, I would certainly have bought the TT. But the Supra is supposed to be my economical daily runaround! A TT would be fun, but I have trouble justifying a TT and the 911 (even to myself!) and I don't think I would need a fun second car - and I don't want to sell the 911. I'd want a fairly late one - and if I was spending that sort of money I think I probably would sell the 911, then combine the amount and go for a TT 911. Maybe in the future I'll go for both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 But a Supra TT is faster than most 911's Yeah I know where you're coming from so fair enough! Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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