MONKEYmark Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 im supprised i not seen anyone post up this supra. got it off http://www.to4r.com/to4r.html web site in the top hp chart. it has a few BL parts. he was getting a slating for been a dyno queen and not running his car on supra forums. good to see people pushing the supra forward. its same turbo skyline lee got. peter`s engine what does everyone think of it? Full Parts List: Engine: BL Custom Single Turbo Kit (incl 76mm Garrett GT42 DBB) BL Custom 4-inch Full-Length DP/MP HKS GTII 52 mm Wastegate HKS SSBOV HKS Racing BOV II GReddy 4-Row FMIC Custom PM 3.5-Inch IC Piping BL 5-Inch Intake Piping And K&N Intake HKS 272 Cam Shafts, Intake And Exhaust NGK Spark Plugs Fluidyne Radiator Electric Fans BL/PM Custom 4-Inch Exhaust With Custom 5-Inch Muffler BL Radiator Plate Carillo H-Beam Rods CP Pistons, 0.020 Overbore Custom Pins And Rings Crower Titanium Springs and Retainers BL Crank Pulley Fuel: 1050 cc Fuel Injectors Custom BL Fuel Rail Three Walbro In-Tank Pumps Weldon Fuel Pressure Regulator Dual-Feed Center Return Rail Electronics: AEM EMS Blitz Spec R Boost Controller Interior: GReddy Boost Gauge GReddy Fuel Pressure Gauge GReddy Exhaust Gas Temperature Gauge Drivetrain: WOTM Clutch TRD Rear End Suspension/Brakes: Eibach Sport Lowering Springs Stainless Steel Brake Lines Wheels/Tires: Polished Fikse ARO Wheels 18x9.5 Front, 18x11 Rear BFG G-Force TA KD 265/35/18 Front BFG G-Force Drag Radial 295/35/18 Rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Originally posted by MONKEYmark peter`s engine what does everyone think of it? I like the little caddy for keeping the turbo warm ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trig Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Needs more bling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 What a beast, also has twin electric fans conversion, 1000+bhp and electric fans, must be better than the "stock" viscious fan eh Who said it wasn't....... Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Yeah was the one that set the biggest HP at TX04 last month, Peter Blach's - his sixth Supra! Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Laing What a beast, also has twin electric fans conversion, 1000+bhp and electric fans, must be better than the "stock" viscious fan eh Who said it wasn't....... Paul This is an area similar to induction kits, people say they dont do anything, yet every/some big power Supra(s) have them...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Laing What a beast, also has twin electric fans conversion, 1000+bhp and electric fans, must be better than the "stock" viscious fan eh Who said it wasn't....... Paul Me. I stand by it, and anyone who has *some* technical knowledge would too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraguy Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I've had my elec fans /w Fluidyne Radiator on some fairly spirited driving over the weekend in the heat. I have yet to see my temp guage move at all. Works like a champ. The people that seem to complain about overheating seem to be stacking oil coolers behind. Could be most likely the prob or a combiation of crap fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Yes, which is why some people fit them because they don't need the cooling of the stock fan. Electric is fine for some, but for cooling is inferior to stock, only an issue in more extreme driving. If Mr Blach was going to take his car to a track, then he would have stayed on stock fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I ran twin electric.....never again, their failure cost me a fortune. For meI'll stick with stock viscous, and add a small electric if necessary. I would never rely on just electric fans again. BTW, they are fine and dandy if all you want to use the car for is 10 sec dyno pulls or 1/4's. The thought of them failing on a 20 Min track session isn't worth thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Thanks for that Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Supraguy I've had my elec fans /w Fluidyne Radiator on some fairly spirited driving over the weekend in the heat. I have yet to see my temp guage move at all. Works like a champ. The people that seem to complain about overheating seem to be stacking oil coolers behind. Could be most likely the prob or a combiation of crap fans. Jason, if it's the stock temp gauge they are sh1te. They stay central all the time, then SUDDENLY hit the top. There seems to me no gradual rise. I have had the same problem with 3 different Toyotas now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Syed Shah Yes, which is why some people fit them because they don't need the cooling of the stock fan. Electric is fine for some, but for cooling is inferior to stock, only an issue in more extreme driving. If Mr Blach was going to take his car to a track, then he would have stayed on stock fans. I think the car says it all, 1300bhp, in HOT America. Someone should tell him his electric fans are crap and to get the stock one put back on then to cool it better!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 You read Terry's post or not? Maybe you should just stick in chit-chat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Yes i read it, but he only mentioned the reliability of the ones he owned, not that they don't cool and personally are you going to argue with guys in the US who have over 1000bhp who use these? I'm not, and Syed what makes you an expert do you tune these cars? I don't know that much about engines etc but i do read the US boards alot, tons of info there. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 If you read the SF, you would know why. Im expert enough, as is Terry I would have guessed. Fit them to your car, just don't start make comments like your first one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I think we should stop this, the last thread tells it all. Nice car he has though, looks very nice But before people slate the electric fans, remember most brand new cars have them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraguy Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 So Terry's experience dosent say anything about the effectiveness of elec fans, just that his were not reliable and that the stock water temp guage isnt very accurate. An easy solution would be to perhaps fit a guage dial for water temp with a warning funtion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 The other point has been the actual throughput of the fans...the electric ones are "ok" but don't shift as much air as the stocker. Usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraguy Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Loads of cooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Whilst I don't doubt it's adequate to your needs, the picture really doesn't tell us anything other than you are lucky enough to have more room in the front for changing belts etc CFM no.s are what matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Supraguy, i'm with you on this one, the Americans are years ahead and there big cars prove this, if electric fans are good enough for them in their heat, there good enough for me Not that it's worth it on my stock twins like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 There are twin fan sets that can move monster amounts of air( perma-cool make some). But what are you actaully gaining, 10 bhp? on cars like ours that is just so insignificant, that to remove the reliable stock fan and replace with a *potential* problem seems pointless. Yes people make them, and yes tuners fit them, but they'd be silly to turn you away when you asked for a set wouldn't they. Also, tell me, when you remove the stock shroud and little electric fan on a manual car say, what happens to the head pressure on the air con? Ever though to that........ BTW, the VVTi set up seem a bit better. The shroud has two small electric fans Also, I have data logged temps in the summer with a FMIC, the electric fans would on all the time, so the bhp advantage would be zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraguy Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Just curious Terry. What caused your fan(s) to fail? Was it one or two and at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Jason, it was both. The kenlowe switch failed. Blew a hole 8" long off the rad top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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