Rahile Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 hi all, i have just knackered my rad. i think. old rad cap was broken, half of it was still stuck in the rad,so i got a pair of pliers and thought i would remove the rest of it, only after i took a chunk out of it realised that was from the actual rad itself. yes i know i f***cked up big time! anyway after i took out what was the rest of the old cap, i saw a small metal ring floating past. any suggestions or is it def new rad. when i put the new cap on(TRD) then squeeze rad hose water flows through to the exspansion tank, is that suppose to happen. what about the floating metal ring. PLEASE HELP !! Regards Rahile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I presume you haven't started the car since this happened? Remove the top hose - from the engine side first in case anything metal is inside the the hose. Take the rad out of the car and flush it out. Put lots of water through the rad from the bottom inlet but do it with the rad upside-down. Try to flush it into some kind of filter, like a sieve or somesuch, so you can tell what's come out. (You might need an adult to help you ) When/If you're happy you've got all the detritus out, flush water through the block, from the bottom intake - just in case. If you're not convinced you have got everything out of the rad then take it to a place that repairs radiators and get then to take the top tank off and clean it out. That'll probably cost you about £80 to £100. Better than like £400 for anew one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahile Posted April 20, 2004 Author Share Posted April 20, 2004 hi jake, local rad shop quoted £86 to recon the rad, i will try and do what you said, but what about the chunk i took out of it(see pic) with new cap on, water runs through to the other plastic tank,thats not suppose to happen is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Originally posted by Rahile hi jake, local rad shop quoted £86 to recon the rad, i will try and do what you said, but what about the chunk i took out of it(see pic) with new cap on, water runs through to the other plastic tank,thats not suppose to happen is it? it's about £80 to have the core replaced and another £80 to have the header tank replaced. Do you need the core replaced? Yes, the pic looks like you're going to need another header tank, I didn't notice the chunk missing when I looked at it earlier. The cap most likely isn't going to seal properly with it like that. BTW, I know where you can get a 2nd hand rad for £115 plus £10 carriage, there's a guy breaking a Supra on ebay, have a look if you want to go that route instead. Yes water is supposed to run through from the top tank to the bottom one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 It's buggered, you need a new rad, AFAIK no UK companies can supply a core to rebuild your old unit, and it needs a new end tank anyway. About 400 quid from Toyota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Originally posted by Chris Wilson It's buggered, you need a new rad, AFAIK no UK companies can supply a core to rebuild your old unit I'm confused Chris. The guys at Serck looked at mine qnd said they could replace the core for £80. They should know what they're talking about, being in the radiator business and all. Is there something unusual about a Supra rad that means it can't be re-cored then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahile Posted April 21, 2004 Author Share Posted April 21, 2004 OK took the rad out last night i thought my car was clean, the amount of crap in there, leaves, paper, fag ends etc. drained the purple fluid that was in there, and also bits of the old cap also came out. defo need new rad because of the chunk out of it. i called almost everywhere inc. ChrisW(cheers)ScotRad Serck etc. one of the guys said yeh will get you a new RAD £125+vat (not exchange)from manufacturer Nissens, but i called Nissens direct, they told me they only do rad upto 93,ChrisW said same MkIII job. ordered new rad from Toyota £300 inc. vat after discount with 3 year warranty.del 3 days. i am not really too pissed because the old rad is in pretty bad shape,esp towards the bottom end where all the crap is stuck to it. now i'm gonna start cleaning out all the crap which will prob. take a while, my car is a 96 model and that was the cond. of it, i would recommend owners to atleast remove all the crap that gathers over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Originally posted by Jake I'm confused Chris. The guys at Serck looked at mine qnd said they could replace the core for £80. They should know what they're talking about, being in the radiator business and all. Is there something unusual about a Supra rad that means it can't be re-cored then? I use Sercks for rads, and when they last had an old MKIV rad in front of them stated that they couldn't find a big enough core of correct thickness and format. Maybe things have changed, it was a few months ago. Anyone had a MKIV rad recored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 There is now a replacement core but i allways use a more efficient design , the replacement is a very recent development (not Serck!!) Dude:flame Dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Originally posted by dude There is now a replacement core but i allways use a more efficient design , the replacement is a very recent development (not Serck!!) "not Serck"? What is it some kind of secret or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Hang on, come to think of it, the used rad I bought from Baldy didn't look like a std toyota one. It has an alloy core and is much lighter than the one I took out. It has Toyota header and lower tanks though. I was presuming it was a Std one that had been recored at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Originally posted by Jake "not Serck"? What is it some kind of secret or something? Basically yes , serck may now do a replacement , the firm i use can get a direct replacment but i use an uprated core with hand made tanks !!!! Dude:flame Dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Originally posted by dude Basically yes , serck may now do a replacement , the firm i use can get a direct replacment but i use an uprated core with hand made tanks !!!! Well, GO YOU ! So why's it a secret? I don't get it Is it : a, The company that makes these don't want to sell any of them? b, You don't want us to know where to get them? c, Something else. e, Where's d? f, All of the above d, Oh there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Rahile sounds like you had a lot of crap at the front of the engine bay,do you have a grill ?Might be an idea to grillthe front while the Rad is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahile Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 Originally posted by far Rahile sounds like you had a lot of crap at the front of the engine bay,do you have a grill ?Might be an idea to grillthe front while the Rad is out Hi there yeh will look into the grill, i have some lying about somewhere. will take the intercooler out also, if thats in bad shape will change that too. oh yeh the plastic guard under the engine, that was really bad, took it off, gave it a good clean, the material type stuff on it,is that just sound proof stuff? can i bin it,cause its pretty bad or will i have to get a new one? regards Rahile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 My car also had loads of crap, leaves and fag butts etc, caught between the rad and and the air con rad, and my grill is meshed! ... thinking about it though, I suppose all the crap was probably there from before I got the new bumper with the mesh. Apparently the undertray thing shouldn't be just removed as it's an important part of the air flow design, for cooling purposes. At least that's what I read on this BBS a while back. I'll see if I can find the original thread about it for you Rahile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jake Well, GO YOU ! So why's it a secret? I don't get it Is it : a, The company that makes these don't want to sell any of them? b, You don't want us to know where to get them? c, Something else. e, Where's d? f, All of the above d, Oh there it is. Its b !!!! dude:flame Dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jake Apparently the undertray thing shouldn't be just removed as it's an important part of the air flow design, for cooling purposes. At least that's what I read on this BBS a while back. I'll see if I can find the original thread about it for you Rahile. Here's the thread I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I had my rad re-cored last August after I noticed my freshly re-gassed a/c condenser pi$$ing out all the gas. After removing it I also found tons of leaves at the bottom which must have contributed to the bottom of the radiator and ac condenser rotting away. Anyway, Northern Radiators managed to re-core mine using a Lexus core since it was the only one big enough. Can't remember if it was a GS 300 core or LS 400 core but it certainly did the job, I think it cost about £200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahile Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by Jake Here's the thread I was thinking of. hi Jake, i was talking about removing the material on the undertray not the undertray itself, that material on there was totally knackered and soaked with water from the rad, so i have binned it anyway,the undertray itself is now cleaned up shining ready to go back on. the material is the same as under the bonnet which i have removed also. thank you for helping. Regards Rahile. ps. should be getting my new rad today ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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