supra steveo Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Soldiers getting paid more, about bloody time i hope they do a back payment on tax as well I've been out there for about 9 months so far, the yanks were tax exempt in 2003 so i was abit cheesed off then and felt the brits should of been to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I'm not in the armed forces but respect anyone who is and this is a step in the right direction in my opinion. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 i am probibly going back for a 7 month tour next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I should be paid more too I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I'm not in the armed forces but respect anyone who is and this is a step in the right direction in my opinion. Well done. Soldiers getting paid more, about bloody time i hope they do a back payment on tax as well I've been out there for about 9 months so far, the yanks were tax exempt in 2003 so i was abit cheesed off then and felt the brits should of been to It's about time I totally agree. My b/f was out there in 2003 during the war and on Op Telic 3. You have to realise that you are not getting paid more it is just that you are getting your tax back. Hope it does not affect LSSA and other bonuses. I take it by your avitar that you are a tankie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Im glad they're getting more money (tax rebate). I don't think our lads should get taxed whilst theyre on operations outside of the UK. Its a shame our Gov wont calculate the tax rebate back to when the war(s) started. Anyone in the armed forces has my total respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 More money for the armed forces is say. As well as tax rebates they need a danger money payment, When you pass your jumps course you receive parachute pay. Why not a danger pay as well ! Another area where more money is needed is in the armed forces budget year on year it gets cut with our armed forces expected to do more and more with less and less equipment. Rant mode off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Another area where more money is needed is in the armed forces budget year on year it gets cut with our armed forces expected to do more and more with less and less equipment. Rant mode off agree With the new promised cash devoted to equipment and the LB apache helicopters, harrier mk9s and 3x aircraft carriers with the possible F-32 aircraft,.. things look to be on the up and up for our armed forces, although thats still only the tip of the iceberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Why not a danger pay as well ! The Army does get danger pay Colin. It's actually called the X-Factor (you don't have to audition though!). As an example: If a soldier gets 20K a year before tax then his real wage is about 2k less than 20K as the Government include the X-factor pay uplift to serving personal. They claim it’s for the inconvenience of service life so the soldier’s real wage is only 18K and not 20 as he thinks (they are doing us all a favour – nice of them eh!!). The UK soldier on operations receives the lowest (by far) of extra financial uplifts over all over global armed forces. The US guys get heaps more per day and the Italians, Australians, French; Danish etc etc can smile all the way to the bank. The main reason why the UK guy gets a pittance of an uplift when on operations is because of the X-Factor (i.e. the government saying that they already get more dosh so don't need to be paid twice for their troubles!!). Great eh but when you reach 600 operational days away from home then your wage goes up an extra £11-12 quid but only for the time you're deployed!! (that’s 600 days in places like Iraq and not in some field in the UK!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 well that puts that into perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 It's about time I totally agree. My b/f was out there in 2003 during the war and on Op Telic 3. You have to realise that you are not getting paid more it is just that you are getting your tax back. Hope it does not affect LSSA and other bonuses. I take it by your avitar that you are a tankie! tankie? what gave you that idea i was over there for telic 1 then the end of 3 and all of 4 who is your b/f with (regiment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hey my job can be bloody dangerous too! Nobody is forced into the armed forces, we don't have conscription. All our armed forces no doubt should be paid more for what they do, I just can't stand people whinging about poor pay (i.e. firefighters!). They chose the profession and knew full well what it paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 i missed my 280 day lssa bonus by sothing daft like 4 days i nearly rung my clarks neck when i got back becasue i was told i had qualified for it then 3 months later "oh sorry hasnt anyone told you" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hey my job can be bloody dangerous too! Nobody is forced into the armed forces, we don't have conscription. All our armed forces no doubt should be paid more for what they do, I just can't stand people whinging about poor pay (i.e. firefighters!). They chose the profession and knew full well what it paid. i did OP Fresco too fire fighter twats oh and i am good at gardening and painting oh and shooting so if anyone wants a hitman who will do your garden and paint your house and put out any fires in the area then i am your man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 i did OP Fresco too fire fighter twats oh and i am good at gardening and painting oh and shooting so if anyone wants a hitman who will do your garden and paint your house and put out any fires in the area then i am your man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hey my job can be bloody dangerous too! Thats the hazards of being a rent boy! Only j/k mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 There's a reason I do it from 30,000 feet Steve. Not as much shooting going on up there and we always see em coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 The Army does get danger pay Colin. It's actually called the X-Factor (you don't have to audition though!). As an example: If a soldier gets 20K a year before tax then his real wage is about 2k less than 20K as the Government include the X-factor pay uplift to serving personal. They claim it’s for the inconvenience of service life so the soldier’s real wage is only 18K and not 20 as he thinks (they are doing us all a favour – nice of them eh!!). The UK soldier on operations receives the lowest (by far) of extra financial uplifts over all over global armed forces. The US guys get heaps more per day and the Italians, Australians, French; Danish etc etc can smile all the way to the bank. The main reason why the UK guy gets a pittance of an uplift when on operations is because of the X-Factor (i.e. the government saying that they already get more dosh so don't need to be paid twice for their troubles!!). Great eh but when you reach 600 operational days away from home then your wage goes up an extra £11-12 quid but only for the time you're deployed!! (that’s 600 days in places like Iraq and not in some field in the UK!) The bonus you are on about is Lssa, it consists of three bands, lower, middle and higher. This depends on how many days away service you have. In the 5 years my b/f was in the army he had 623 days Lssa which it took him onto the higher band which worked out at about an extra £11.00 a day. Lssa is'nt classed as a bonus, it is Long Service Seperation Allownace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 tankie? what gave you that idea i was over there for telic 1 then the end of 3 and all of 4 who is your b/f with (regiment) He was with 39 Heavy Regt RA, Then went to 32 Regt RA just before Telic. He did Op Fiasco as well, Got back from 6 month's in NI on the Friday and started Op Fresco on the following Monday, but hey the amry is'nt over streched! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I was in Bosnia in 97, and the Septics were on tax free then too. They have it so that if they are in a 'War Zone' ie where they need to wear body armour then they are on tax free pay and other hugh benefits. I only found that out by asking some we met why they were all suited and booted when the treat was nil. The only way this poxy Govt will give more money to a Squaddie is if they can screw it back out of them in some other way. So I'm waiting to hear where it is that we will lose out. Saying that the TA lost its TEA (Training Extra Allowance) which was only about £5 per training night but it helped cover stuff. And considering that a good 50-90% of TA activity is unpaid then it was a bit of a kick in the teeth for the boys. Adding to the fact that the Reserve Forces Act isnt worth the paper it is printed on (see the Sunday Mirror for some reasons) the Govt it trying to cover it's ass by using the TA in a way it was never designed for. Rename it the UK Reserve Forces and give it the backing and benefits that the US National Guard has and things would get better. Saying that, give the Armed Forces enmass the same conditions and pay as the US forces and recruiting would be at a high and there wouldnt be a case of over strech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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supra steveo Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 i should have loads of lssa but i am on the old scheme (twats!) i had to serve 3 yrs before i started getting lssa i did 1 and half years on Germany 6 months in Cyprus on a UN tour then went to batus and drove a safety rover for about 5 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I don't know anything about the wages of a soldier or the details of how much they'll go up by so I couldn't possibly comment. It's worth noting from http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=285 The median annual pay for full-time women increased by 4.8 per cent in 2005 to £19,400. Median annual earnings for full-time employees for the 2004-05 tax year stood at £22,900, up 3.8 per cent on the previous year. Full-time males earned £25,100, up 3.5 per cent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I was in Bosnia in 97, and the Septics were on tax free then too. They have it so that if they are in a 'War Zone' ie where they need to wear body armour then they are on tax free pay and other hugh benefits. I don't relate with the word "Septic" in the context you use it. That being said, he speaks the truth. When we're (US armed forces) on the ground or flying over an area deemed by some desk jocky to be Hostile, a "combat tax-exclusion zone" for that area/country/airspace allows us to be "tax-free" as we call it in the biz. Additionally, we receive a varying extra pay known as "Hostile fire pay" or "imminent danger pay". It's changed quite a bit in the last 5 years, and there's been areas removed/added. I can't speak to the equipment pay, as I have no knowledge in this department. Saying that, give the Armed Forces enmass the same conditions and pay as the US forces and recruiting would be at a high and there wouldnt be a case of over strech! No doubt. Soldiers do not get paid enough for what they do. Period, dot. From what I am told, this problem is worse for UK military. We're all being stretched thin due to government cutbacks. The prevailing new motto is: "Way more work with way less people." Thank god I'm in NATO atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 ...we receive a varying extra pay known as "Hostile fire pay" or "imminent danger pay".... For a moment there I expected a "Friendly Fire" pay:innocent: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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