dangerous brain Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Originally posted by HISUPE Got 318bhp and about 310lb/ft Hurry up with that V5 lol:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Originally posted by dangerous brain Hurry up with that V5 lol:cool: Need to give the DVLA a With the boost sorted I reckon it was running well over 350 Was a day off going on the dyno to find out though! DOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Originally posted by scooby_doo_do Any ideas on how much bhp i'll be getting ? I was hoping for over 400 but i'm starting to think otherwise... Oh well..Guess i'll find out on sat What mods you got.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_doo_do Posted April 21, 2004 Author Share Posted April 21, 2004 Ive got... Stage 3 Hybrids HKS Front Mount S Type Spark plugs... No Cats... Exhaust Air filter FSE Boost Valve FCD Blitz BOV TRD Oil Filter - Oh er missis Samco Hosing And a flamer kit for those important photo shots..... Think thats roughly about all the engine mods..... Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_doo_do Posted April 21, 2004 Author Share Posted April 21, 2004 Forgot to mention...... Running aprox 1.2/1.3 bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 BHP is a function of torque, you only measure torque and then work out the BHP. Power Engineering is just down the road from me as well, you must be local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Im very interested to see what you get as Im about to have stage 3's fitted, but from what Paul E says you should be making 400-450 at the wheels......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_doo_do Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 Thanks Ashley.... You just made me happy..... I have this terable dream that i might make about 300bhp and if i make that then i'll scream and be all upset with the amount of money i've spent on the car.... I'll let you all know how i get on tommorrow..... Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_doo_do Posted April 24, 2004 Author Share Posted April 24, 2004 1 Supra up for sale........Any offer accepted, as its shite...... I was the first car on the rolling road and i managed a awfull 353bhp at 6346revs with 311Lbs of torque... The graph shows the bar to go up then flat then up and then down a bit, and then up slightly.... He said the car had a really bad misfire and i should expect a hell of a lot more out of it. On knowing that i had not changed the plugs for ages he told me that the hks iridiums are shite and i should just put some ngk's in it.. He said that 9/10 times its the plugs...... So i bought myself a set of ngk's and fitted them there... I was so cheesed off that i didn't want to pay the £30 to have it on the rollers again......... I'm going to run it for a while and see how it goes, i did notice the boost went a lot higher as i set the boost controller so it was basically off and the car sat nicely at 1.2 bar on the way home... The only good thing that came out of the day was that my car was the most powerfull...... Just shite..... As you can see i'm not entirely happy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 If that's 353 at the rear wheels, I don't think that's bad at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Originally posted by scooby_doo_do I was the first car on the rolling road and i managed a awfull 353bhp at 6346revs with 311Lbs of torque... He said the car had a really bad misfire and i should expect a hell of a lot more out of it. The only good thing that came out of the day was that my car was the most powerfull...... Just shite..... As you can see i'm not entirely happy.... I think you are being very hard on your poor beastie You put crappy (!?) spark plugs in - and it still gives you 353 at the HUB - which is about std for the soops with BPU - a load have made a lot less m8 The torque IS low - and there is obviously some sorting to do - sparks / fuelling whatever Jees guy - give yourself a break!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Paul, remember this was a rolling road, so the reading was at the wheels, not the hubs. Last year at G-force, mine got 297 RWHP. But also remember that you can't compare dyno plots unless you get them done on the same dyno... - Torque does look a little low though. Iridiums crap eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 What was the fueling like , the guy must of told you or did they just chuck it on the dyno ??? Main point is were you happy with the car before it was dynoed or did you dyno it because you thought there was a problem ??? im sure if you bung the guy a drink he will flick a few switches and give you a readout with a lot more HP !!! Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Stage 3 Hybrids HKS Front Mount S Type Spark plugs... No Cats... Exhaust Air filter FSE Boost Valve FCD Blitz BOV TRD Oil Filter - Oh er missis Samco Hosing And a flamer kit for those important photo shots..... I should have read the whole spec (and the thread - thought he was advocating iridiums DOH!) Yep - I understand now why hacked withy the stage three's on and all - which ones are they m8? I would hazard a guess that the fuelling sounds out - coupled with sparks - you have uprated to Walbro fuel pump to go with the stage 3's - yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_doo_do Posted April 25, 2004 Author Share Posted April 25, 2004 yea, i suppose i was a little harsh.... The cars running lovely with the new plugs and hits 1.2 bar straight away with the boost controller down. I do have a uprated fuel pump and i was expecting a lot more... Oh well... Car goes in the bodyshop tomorrow to have all the wheels refurbished and get all the car chips ect done..... Thanks for cheering me up chaps.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I haven't seen confirmation in the thread, forgive me if I've missed it - was that figure at the wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_doo_do Posted April 25, 2004 Author Share Posted April 25, 2004 As far as i know yes that was the figure from the wheels.... I'll scan in a copy of the dyno sheet on monday when i get to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by scooby_doo_do yea, i suppose i was a little harsh.... The cars running lovely with the new plugs and hits 1.2 bar straight away with the boost controller down. I do have a uprated fuel pump and i was expecting a lot more... Then IMHO those figures from the RR sound bollox m8:thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E Then IMHO those figures from the RR sound bollox m8:thumbs: Paul -what makes you say that? Are you saying that's too low? Craig got 353 at the wheels. The figure I see most often for losses at the wheels for a 6 speed is 18%. If that's right, he's making 416 at the crank, which is pretty substantial. I thought you got about 400 at the hub at Thor? The figure at the hubs should be higher. In fact, if the formula that was debated a while back on a (long) thread is right, that's about 440 at the crank. Given Craig's misfiring problem then his isn't a million miles off yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by Tannhauser Paul -what makes you say that? Are you saying that's too low? Craig got 353 at the wheels. The figure I see most often for losses at the wheels for a 6 speed is 18%. If that's right, he's making 416 at the crank, which is pretty substantial. That's what I was trying to say earlier, but I think Pauls ignoring me! IMO, 353 at the rear wheels is pretty damn good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 But not for stage 3 hybrids surely, I was getting 357 rwhp on stocks at 1.2b........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Originally posted by Matt Harwood That's what I was trying to say earlier, but I think Pauls ignoring me! IMO, 353 at the rear wheels is pretty damn good! Sorry Matt - just lost it there with the crank / hub / wheel / gerbil power etc Ignore the ravings of this fool!! I got 406 @1.3 Bar at Thor and 386lbs I think it was So yes the HP sounds fine - but the torque? Does this suffer same losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Originally posted by Ashley Willis But not for stage 3 hybrids surely, I was getting 357 rwhp on stocks at 1.2b........... Equivalent of 302/307 HP in this measurement! He made 353 in this measurement - so about the 50HP that stage threes seem to give! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Originally posted by Ashley Willis But not for stage 3 hybrids surely, I was getting 357 rwhp on stocks at 1.2b........... ...And then we are into the subject of just how good hybrids are? I used to be a believer, but not anymore, some research showed me that they really don't make any sense for VFM power gains, best for replacing blown turbos in a pinch. If performance is your goal, hybrids don't make sense IMHO. (Flame suit on) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Take your suit off mate, thats what I have been told as well....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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