mikeyb10supra Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 How do you know all this? More roll, why? The suspension could well be a lot more durable than you think, we don't all go belting around the twisty roads pushing the car to the limit. Toyota Corporation are a massive company and im sure they spent thousands and thousands of pounds in testing and developing there suspension setup to get it spot on....the standard car was setup with 16/17's in mind, very light and robust wheels, when The mkiv was released deep dish bling 19's etc were hardly around and if they offered a considerable performance gain they would have been used in the first place....im not knocking anyone for using 19's each to there own and all that but your moving far far away from the original spec and geometry setup so will no doubt not be as efficient! A proper geometry setup and expensive suspension upgrade may help offset the problem but will still not be as good as stock unless your spending thousands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 But in the early 1990's when the car was designed was there any 18" or 19" tyres available ? If they were they would be very expensive! It's only in the last 10 years or less that the trend has moved to fitting larger wheels on all cars . Any half decent fast car now has 19's .Would the Supra suspension design be that much different, none of us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 But in the early 1990's when the car was designed was there any 18" or 19" tyres available ? If they were they would be very expensive! Cost would'nt come into it, dont think any corners were cut when develpoing the car, im sure they would have been used if they thought they were beneficial It's only in the last 10 years or less that the trend has moved to fitting larger wheels on all cars . Any half decent fast car now has 19's .Would the Supra suspension design be that much different, none of us know. A very interesting point, and one worth considering I think, would like to hear Chris Wilsons veiws on this point, like I said with the proper setup and suspension upgrades, who knows?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 stop this madness!! 17's and 18's are obviously for the pure performance petrolheads and 19's are for the show off's, i've got 19's and mine feels fine but i've never tried 18's and never will. love ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 please don't get chris in on this. no offence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Im definatly not knocking anyones choices, its certainly each to there own in my opinion, I would never argue the point with someones choices....just passing on my views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I am watching, but staying quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 please don't get chris in on this. no offence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 ahhh. please don't hurt me with your expert opinion and views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovervi Posted October 10, 2006 Author Share Posted October 10, 2006 sorry, i didnt mean to cause any arguments being new to the forum i didnt know what i was starting obviously lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 you have'nt mate.....just banter this debate goes on and on and on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 come on then!!! if u think your hard enough!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I am watching, but staying quiet ...I think someone should photoshop some bling 22" rims onto Chris' Skyline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovervi Posted October 10, 2006 Author Share Posted October 10, 2006 judging by all this i take it Mr Wilson is not a big fan of modifications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 nope, but he knows his stuff. legend on the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 judging by all this i take it Mr Wilson is not a big fan of modifications Oh he's a big fan of modifications, just not the kind of modifications your average Nova owner would do. Neons, stupidly low suspension, ridiculously sized wheels etc.. ...I'm really gonna have to photoshop Chris' car now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 He is, just ones that work properly though I am not a fan of MKIV's on 19 inch rims, a chassis designers VERY FIRST decision is wheel and tyre size, virtually EVERYTHING else is designed around this first and foremost parameter, be it road or race car. A MKIV could be made to work OK on 19 inch rims, but it would horribly expensive to achieve this to OE standards, and probably have a lot of NVH compromises to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 The suspension could well be a lot more durable than you think, we don't all go belting around the twisty roads pushing the car to the limit. think you shoukd its more fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndwgolf Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 here you go, but 19's make the car handle very very badly, I got rid of mine quick smart Why?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndwgolf Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Toyota Corporation are a massive company and im sure they spent thousands and thousands of pounds in testing and developing there suspension setup to get it spot on....the standard car was setup with 16/17's in mind, very light and robust wheels, when The mkiv was released deep dish bling 19's etc were hardly around and if they offered a considerable performance gain they would have been used in the first place....im not knocking anyone for using 19's each to there own and all that but your moving far far away from the original spec and geometry setup so will no doubt not be as efficient! A proper geometry setup and expensive suspension upgrade may help offset the problem but will still not be as good as stock unless your spending thousands I take it you don't have 19's on your car then, do you have a Supra? Anyway here is a picture of the 19's I just ordered from Weds Sport in Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I take it you don't have 19's on your car then, do you have a Supra? Not from the sounds of it, but he's still correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I take it you don't have 19's on your car then, do you have a Supra? Anyway here is a picture of the 19's I just ordered from Weds Sport in Japan ive had one for 4yrs mate, probably been on this board a lot longer than most as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 but he's still correct Not totally. I'm sure Toyota could've designed the Supra to work well on 19's but in the 1990's I doubt they were even available and the trend then was to have smaller wheels compared to recent times. I agree they won't handle aswell, but how many of us push the car to such an extent to notice this on public roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Not totally. He is. I'm sure Toyota could've designed the Supra to work well on 19's but in the 1990's I doubt they were even available and the trend then was to have smaller wheels compared to recent times. Could have, but they didn't, so he's correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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