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Good day all,

 

Looking for some advise...

 

As some of you know, I moved here from SouthAfrica, I have been working in permanent positions for 2 years, almost.

 

Basically I am considering moving to contract work. I am a SQL DBA by trader. My fiancee has a good permanent position at Sky, so we are sorted for the minimum income per month. Also the supra is going paid for, so there is no selling of the car!!!

 

I worked as a contractor in South Africa, but have no experience of the contract market here.

 

What the things that I need to look out for tax wise, etc. I believe that I have to go through an umbrella company, is that right?

 

Any advise is greatly appreciated!

 

Graham

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hi mate ,

I started contracting 6 months ago .... doing app support at the moment and loving it. You dont HAVE to go via an umbrella at all - you can set yourself up as a ltd company and dodge some of the tax that way.

at the moment i do use an umbrella as I first wanted to get some experience and work out whats what. the best thing to do is find an acountant who deals with it conttractors and go see them.

 

also I use linked in.com for contacts and get a few leads a month via it.

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Whats an IR35??

 

IR35 is the governments way of raping contractors who are doing well for themselves. Basically it's to stop contractors working for the same employer for years and years, making big bucks, and basically being disguised employees, which the employer doesn't have to pay taxes on or something. With an umbrella company, you are technically employed, not actually a true contractor, so are outside of IR35. Or you can make sure you spread your services over several companies across the year. YOU NEED TO READ UP ON THIS, IT IS IMPORTANT IF YOU GO CONTRACTING

 

What sort of percentages to umbrella companies take??

 

Mine takes 2% before tax (the fee is tax deductable, making it closer to 1% in the end)

 

Is that before tax??

 

see above.

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IR35 is the governments way of raping contractors who are doing well for themselves. Basically it's to stop contractors working for the same employer for years and years, making big bucks, and basically being disguised employees, which the employer doesn't have to pay taxes on or something. With an umbrella company, you are technically employed, not actually a true contractor, so are outside of IR35. Or you can make sure you spread your services over several companies across the year. YOU NEED TO READ UP ON THIS, IT IS IMPORTANT IF YOU GO CONTRACTING

 

 

 

Mine takes 2% before tax (the fee is tax deductable, making it closer to 1% in the end)

 

 

 

see above.

 

Makes sense, thank you!

 

Definitely going to do some reading up on this.

 

Do I have to start filling out full tax returns? Or is it simpler to just pay someone to do it for me? Which is what I used to do in SA, and well worth the money at the end of the day.

 

How is tax paid then? Does the company pay you, or your umbrella company? Do they deduct tax or do you pay it in lump sums? Is it up to you the individual to pay the tax at the end of the day?

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Makes sense, thank you!

 

Definitely going to do some reading up on this.

 

Do I have to start filling out full tax returns? Or is it simpler to just pay someone to do it for me? Which is what I used to do in SA, and well worth the money at the end of the day.

 

How is tax paid then? Does the company pay you, or your umbrella company? Do they deduct tax or do you pay it in lump sums? Is it up to you the individual to pay the tax at the end of the day?

 

The whole purpose of an umbrella is to do all that for you, so you get paid your monthly due, they do ALL the tax, NI, employers NI, blah blah blah. You even get a P45 at the end of it all. You can do a tax return if you really want, but it's not necessary - worth giving your tax office a call to ask the question, they're actually quite helpful as long it's not around April (busy season).

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I use parasol IT as my umbrella .. very good and they have a great customer services line. i gave them a call when i was starting and there were able to tell me what my retention figure would be and also offer advice on expenses. Its not like the good old days though, you cant claim for everything anymore that might be remotly connected to your business .. but you can get quite a bit.

if you go the ltd compnay way and pay yourself a minimum wage and make the rest up in dividends, dont pay yourself less than 22G a year. 22G is the salary of a jnr tax man and so anything less is noticed apparently !

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Talking of contracting, I've just seen a local job on a 18 month contract that seems my kind of thing but it says

"position is to start ASAP and will pay £17.00 - £19.00 (Ltd) or £13.50 - £15.50 (Paye) per hour."

 

WTF is Ltd? (I've never worked as a contractor before)

 

£17 to £19 is pretty poor money for contracting, right? That's less than 40k! For contracting!

I was on more than that as a permie last year. (before I got made redundant)

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Before the government decided to screw the contractors with IR35 you used to be able to set yourself up as a limited company. The company would invoice the client, you would pay yourself a reasonable salary which you were taxed on, and the rest would be paid as dividends. Now it's harldy worth contracting in the UK as you pay so much tax. You can offset this with expenses, such as digs and travel, but you're still only looking at around 66% retention.

 

I've used Albany UK and can recommend them. They also assign you an accountant to take care of your tax returns.

 

Read up before you decide to take the plunge and make sure it's the right move for you. Many people only see the hourly rate, and forget that you don't get paid leave, sick pay, pension plus other benefits some companies provide if you're perm.

 

I wouldn't want to work any other way. I get paid well, travel, and don't get involved with office politics. If my boss is a pr*ck, I just leave and go somewhere else. :)

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Talking of contracting, I've just seen a local job on a 18 month contract that seems my kind of thing but it says

"position is to start ASAP and will pay £17.00 - £19.00 (Ltd) or £13.50 - £15.50 (Paye) per hour."

 

WTF is Ltd? (I've never worked as a contractor before)

 

£17 to £19 is pretty poor money for contracting, right? That's less than 40k! For contracting!

I was on more than that as a permie last year. (before I got made redundant)

 

 

I've never seen pay advertised like that before :blink:

 

At those rates you're much better off perm.

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Cheers Nick.

As a permy I used to get titsed-off (is that a word?) with contractor mates moaning about IR35 because I still paid more tax than they did. Seemed to me like they earned more than than I did, a lot more, so they /should/ be paying more tax.

 

I'd not really be taking that a big plunge (as in risk) because I'm not working at the mo. I've been out of IT for the last year but if I can get a 'foot in the door' contracting I'll jump at it.

I'm sure I'll either love it or hate it but what the hell, might as well give it a shot.

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Cheers Nick.

As a permy I used to get titsed-off (is that a word?) with contractor mates moaning about IR35 because I still paid more tax than they did. Seemed to me like they earned more than than I did, a lot more, so they /should/ be paying more tax.

 

I'd not really be taking that a big plunge (as in risk) because I'm not working at the mo. I've been out of IT for the last year but if I can get a 'foot in the door' contracting I'll jump at it.

I'm sure I'll either love it or hate it but what the hell, might as well give it a shot.

 

 

The limited company was a nice loop hole while it lasted. I see your point about earning more so paying more, that's fair enough. However the government and EU have made it so that you're effectively PAYE, but without the benefits of being perm. The whole point of contracting is to maximise your income so that it's worth the risk. No point moaning about it, either work to the new rules or go somewhere else.

 

You've got nothing to loose mate, give it a go and see if you like it.

 

The golden rule is always remember that agents are sharks, and only care about their margin.

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