Jake Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I presume a SATA II hard disk won't work on a SATA mobo, right? I'm using a couple of IDE ATA133 160gb drives at the moment but apparently this Abit A7N8X-E mobo supports SATA (I don't think SATA II was invented when I got this board). So if I want more HD storage I'll just have to get an old school IDE drive unless I want to change the mobo? (Can't be arsed) Is SATA or SATAII noticably faster than IDE in the real world anyway? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 It should work, just slower. Some Via chipsets have trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 How much slower? Same speed as IDE ATA133 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 will be quicker than IDE but not as fast as SATA II I am running a SATA II HDD on my Asus SLI Deluxe board that only supports SATA I and have no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I've asked the guys here. We don't stock SATA drives anymore - but do have the Raptors in stock if your interested (v.fast SATA I) SATA should be the same as ATA133 - Never really saw a major real world advantage. I meant slower than SATAII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I thought SATA I was 150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 How much for the Raptor, Pete? Specs? These are the kinda ones I was looking at : http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?WD-2500KS http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?MAX-PS2320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 SATA 1 are in theory faster than ATA133, in the real world......they simply are not. SATA 1 and 2 should be backwords/fowards compatibale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I thought SATA I was 150? They are, they never hold that speed thou, just seem to 'burst' to it for a very short time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 PS raptors rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 They are, they never hold that speed thou, just seem to 'burst' to it for a very short time Same as IDE then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Pritty much, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 but as the sata cable is much smaller than the IDE ones you will get much better air flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I thought SATA I was 150? Theoretical throughput of the interface yes. Real world - naff all difference. Will check on Raptors for you Jake. These are basically SCSI drives on SATA interface and utilise the throughput unlike the usual SATA drives which were IDE with a different interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Theoretical throughput yes. Real world - naff all difference. Yes I know, but I was trying to point out that ATA's 133 is theoretical too. Rather than some people possibly getting confused thinking ATA and SATA are the same speed, they aren't, but there's very little in it to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 It's mainly the RPM speed and cache that make the difference on the raptors isn't it? A SATA drive is a SATA drive, it's not something else in SATA clothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Western Digital WES.WD360GD (There's a PDF download on that page too with all info on) £69.30 ex VAT to you. I can't see them forsale on other sites for price comparison, but that really is the best I can do on what it cost us. £10 ex VAT next working day delivery. One in stock brand spanking new. SATA I 10,000 rpm drives. It's only 36Gb though, but what most people do is put their OS on one of these and run other drives for storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 A SATA drive is a SATA drive, it's not something else in SATA clothing Not really dude. Most SATA drives are the same as IDE with different boards on the bottom. These Raptors are basically SCSI drive technology put into a SATA package, hence why they're 36.6 Gb and 72Gb (Like SCSI) SATA II drives should work on the nForce chipset - but to be sure, buy one where you know you can return it! We have seen some boards not like SATA2 drives on SATA1 interfaces. You could always buy an IDE drive with a SATA convertor? or an external USB drive caddy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I can't be arsed to spend time and money on hard disks that will be obsolete in a couple of years anyway. I prefer external HDs with USB2. Almost as fast as internal ones, and you can swap them without opening the case. £100odd for 300mb now, pretty competitive too. For extra storage they are unbeateable. One I got lately has got lots of cache, can't tell the difference from the internal SATA (or whatever it is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I run with Raptors Jake.. they rock, I would recommend the Western Digital ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I just bought a 250Gb external from Novatech.. weirdly.. £76 This one.. for the same reasons as John pointed out.. and I can take it back to the folks and offload music/films and that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 After several Maxtors and a Western Digital failure over the years I use Seagate drives now. The only manufacturer to offer a 5 year guarantee AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Yep, Seagate. I've got two at home, getting a third one soon. You can use the internal HDDs for software installations etc, and use the external ones for data and archives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Had bad experiences with Seagate. Not had a problem with Quantum or WD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I've had WD disks die at work within months of service. Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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