garethr Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 How many times do I have to say this? THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO REGISTER "FIGHTING" BREEDS. or any other dog, with the exception of the four banned breeds (two of which were not fighting dogs anyway), and since you can't legally breed or import them, you can't register them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 How many times do I have to say this? THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO REGISTER "FIGHTING" BREEDS. or any other dog, with the exception of the four banned breeds (two of which were not fighting dogs anyway), and since you can't legally breed or import them, you can't register them. What was the origins of the Argentino? The Tosa & APBT I know, and wasn't the Brasillio used for cattle hearding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 OK, I was referring to the 4 breeds. Use dangerous instead of fighting, I don't profess to know the origin of every single dog breed on the planet, just the ones I'm interested in. I think we're coming at this from different angles, I'm just trying to point out that banning fighting breeds won't help with rotties etc as they aren't fighting dogs. People seem to think that because a dog is large it was bred to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaMoCo Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 At first i hope you don´t get problems with my english! I own two Rottweiler and i can let this dogs play whenever i want with children. They are so canny and fondly that i´m not fearful to do this! Also both dogs make the training to the guard dog. And the german training licit the dog only to bit the arm.We train this every and every day.So if the dog bites he bites into the arm. All the dogs wich attack children or adults aren´t right in the head. They get floggings in the training over a long time. so if they get the chance they will take avenge. In germany all the newspapers wait for a new attack to make a big thing with it. but most of it are small scratches.but if you read you think the attacked person don´t survive the night! because of this reporting we pay round about 550 taxes in year for each dog. Also hundret years ago the Rottweiler was the buckler and drover of the german butcher.In german we called the dog bucherdog. he save the cattles from thieves and wild animals.it was everytime a family dog. http://hometown.aol.de/Msteinort/rotts.JPG http://hometown.aol.de/Msteinort/tribunal.JPG http://hometown.aol.de/Msteinort/rotts1.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECK Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 oh my god thats the first rotty ive seen with a tail looks funny but good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 lovely Rottweilers you have there JaMoCo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 It makes me glad reading this thread to see that there is still plenty of people on here capable of independent thinking. (Though we have a few on here that have clearly been led by the media). I have said it before and I will say it again: It is ALL down to the owner. A dog is what you make of it. I can make a poodle that wants to fight the world or a Pit Bull that will play with your kids. It is all about what you do as the owner. Not genetics/breed etc etc. That does not matter. As for the reason to have large "fighting" breeds (I have one Bull Mastiff, and an English Mastiff, and will be keeping one of the English Mastiff pups); the reason is twofold: Firstly: I am away a lot, my dogs allow me to leave the family safe in the knowledge that nobody can invade the house. They allow me to sleep easy even when thousands of miles from home. Secondly: They may be fearsome guards, but they are also GREAT pets. Take the Bull Mastiff for example; when in his prime he was every bit as built as that Canary Dog shown earlier (if not more so) and came in at 170ish lbs. He is the most aggressive dog I have ever (or will ever) have, and me and my bro-in-law could not hold him together. People, other dogs, anything living in fact he hated and would go for. You get the picture. But he is the best and most trusted family PET. I have pictures of me and of my sister sleeping in his arms. Soft as sh*t with us. Because this is how I have raised him. People give dogs bad press like people giveguns bad press (don't worry IanC, I understood your first post ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 It makes me glad reading this thread to see that there is still plenty of people on here capable of independent thinking. (Though we have a few on here that have clearly been led by the media). I have said it before and I will say it again: It is ALL down to the owner. A dog is what you make of it. I can make a poodle that wants to fight the world or a Pit Bull that will play with your kids. It is all about what you do as the owner. Not genetics/breed etc etc. That does not matter. As for the reason to have large "fighting" breeds (I have one Bull Mastiff, and an English Mastiff, and will be keeping one of the English Mastiff pups); the reason is twofold: Firstly: I am away a lot, my dogs allow me to leave the family safe in the knowledge that nobody can invade the house. They allow me to sleep easy even when thousands of miles from home. Secondly: They may be fearsome guards, but they are also GREAT pets. Take the Bull Mastiff for example; when in his prime he was every bit as built as that Canary Dog shown earlier (if not more so) and came in at 170ish lbs. He is the most aggressive dog I have ever (or will ever) have, and me and my bro-in-law could not hold him together. People, other dogs, anything living in fact he hated and would go for. You get the picture. But he is the best and most trusted family PET. I have pictures of me and of my sister sleeping in his arms. Soft as sh*t with us. Because this is how I have raised him. People give dogs bad press like people giveguns bad press (don't worry IanC, I understood your first post ) Yet again another good post,, you have a old English Mastiff, you luck sod,, they are lovely dogs, people can mistake them for a horse if it is a bit dark lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Yet again another good post,, you have a old English Mastiff, you luck sod,, they are lovely dogs, people can mistake them for a horse if it is a bit dark lol Thanks mate - we love her to bits, great dog. Lol - yes she has been called that by a delivery guy making a fast exit despite her being behind a locked window! Here she is with the pups (now 4 wks old, but I dont have the pics on this comp to update thread ) : http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=80368&highlight=mastiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 some of you dog lovers talk a crock of shit, ive owned dogs and ive been attacked by dogs - im entitled to my opinion just as you are, just by your reactions its totaly obvious that some of you should never ever be allowed to own a fighting dog. say what you want im staying out of this thread now becuase your all soooo emotional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I have said it before and I will say it again: It is ALL down to the owner. A dog is what you make of it. I can make a poodle that wants to fight the world or a Pit Bull that will play with your kids. It is all about what you do as the owner. Not genetics/breed etc etc. That does not matter. Wrong, that is a sweeping statement the same way that 'all pitbulls are dangerous' is a sweeping statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 some of you dog lovers talk a crock of shit, ive owned dogs and ive been attacked by dogs - im entitled to my opinion just as you are, just by your reactions its totaly obvious that some of you should never ever be allowed to own a fighting dog. say what you want im staying out of this thread now becuase your all soooo emotional. Damn dude... wake up on the wrong side of the bed?? all that negativity in one hit... *goes back to the peace pipe* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Damn dude... wake up on the wrong side of the bed?? all that negativity in one hit... *goes back to the peace pipe* After reading his posts,, i need the peace pipe lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 your all soooo emotional. You're talking about banning the pets that they view as a member of the family, and stating that they have no right or reason to keep such animals. Not suprising that people are getting emotional really is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I'm sorry- I have to ask- is this a wind up and did I fall for it? It's quite embarresing that someone was winding me up to the point I shattered mawby's bandwidth allowance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 What was the origins of the Argentino? The Tosa & APBT I know, and wasn't the Brasillio used for cattle hearding? Distinguished as the only dog developed in Argentina, the Dogo Argentine was created in the 1920s, through the strategem of Dr. Antonio Nores Martinez. A dog lover and avid hunter, Martinez sought a tough guardian: a hunter who was a worthy opponent for wild boar, puma and jaguar. Nevertheless, he also desired a trustworthy family dog. Dr. Martinez believed, "A dog which attacks an intruder and then, at the first threat of injury, abandons its prisoner is worth nothing as a guardian." The Old Fighting Dog of Cordoba, Spain, was the root stock of the recipe for the Dogo. The general type of the Cordoba was large, white and ferocious, with tremendous variation in appearance. These dogs were only interested in one thing—lighting; they were said to be so vicious, a male would attack bitches during the mating ritual! The Cordoba stemmed from Spanish Mastiff, Bull Terrier, old Bulldog of England and early Boxer. The Cordoba's original mixture started the recipe for Martinez's "Super Dog" with plenty of spice and hot pepper. The Spanish Mastiff donated power, with the Bulldog contributing chest capacity, stoicism and tenacity. The Boxer's influence gave quiet confidence and trainability. Martinez blended the Cordoba Dogs with the harlequin Great Dane for height and the Great Pyrenees to maintain the bulk and color. The Pyrenees also introduced hardiness in extreme weather. To heighten the hunting instinct, the English Pointer brought his fine nose and air-scenting ability, and the Irish Wolfhound added a dash of speed. Later crosses to the Dogue de Bordeaux intensified courage, along with body and jaw strength. Over the next three decades, Martinez demonstrated the Dogo's versatility through its use as a sled dog and dog guide for the blind, as well as a great hunter and guardian. When Antonio Martinez died in 1956, his brother, Agustin, continued promoting and preserving the breed. His post as Ambassador enabled him to introduce the Dogo to other countries and to present these dogs as gifts to those in high positions. Despite setbacks during political upheavals, the Dogo has achieved the recognition of the Argentina Kennel Club. The breed still hunts big game and guards homes. Argentinian hunts are held in strict silence—by both dogs and hunters. Dogos hunt in packs, ready to attack the tough big game. They are true dogs of heart, showing no hesitancy, The hunters value these dogs, caring for them first after a hunt, as a rider does for a horse. The breed is well known throughout Europe, especially Germany, and was granted recognition by FCI in 1960. There is an active club in the United States where Dogo owners are encouraging their use as home protector, family dog, and in police or guide work. The Dogo is loving to children and is a tireless playmate. The breed's stamina and longevity are remarkable, with some dogs still hunting at 16 years of age. In a home situation, if Dogos can't hunt pumas, they'll settle for mice. Their scenting ability was demonstrated by the bitch who picked her own pups out of the wet nurse's Utter following her hospitalization. Extremely loyal, they are excellent guard dogs, requiring dominant masters. P.S Gaz, casper looks lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Sounds like someone needs a 1 month ban to me. Is it possible to be dogist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Ah! So that's what you meant when you said you knew a lot about dogging! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Sounds like someone needs a 1 month ban to me. Is it possible to be dogist? sounds like you need a life time ban for being obnoxious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Cheers Matt- for both the reply & complement- do you think the name bucks the sterotype lol! Oh- and one Banjo: http://www.fullnet.com/u/estrange/Jackson.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 THAT's not a banjo THAT's a banjo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Lol. Pnumoni- are you going to answer properly to my post or are you just going to sit their with your fingers in your ears like that nutter on the Ocean Finance adverts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 My other Banjo is a Wasburn Mercury MG72 with gold hardware & flame figured maple top under a green finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Sounds nice dude, but a banjo is surely nothing without that hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Lol. Pnumoni- are you going to answer properly to my post or are you just going to sit their with your fingers in your ears like that nutter on the Ocean Finance adverts? ive told you where i stand and ive told you how i percieve you, thats all i have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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