Recent Dog Attacks

[Supragal]

Not looking good the for the Rotty breed at the moment then.

 

I would love to know what actually happened in these situations, the media never tell you that.

 

Not that I'm saying it's acceptable for a dog to maul a child but they make it sound so clear cut, "ooo evil dogs just attack children for no reason"

 

My question is who on earth leaves a baby/child anywhere with a dog or where a dog can get to it?

[imi]

Whats the deal with having these types of guard dogs as pets anyway? Dont you think its the owners responsiblity to be extra vigilant with these types of breeds?

[Supragal]

Absolutely. I'd put a fair amount of money on those dogs not being properly brought up.

[Supragal]

Just read an update to the Cadley one. The fire exit was mistakenly left open allowing the dogs into where the unsupervised child was.

 

It also say's that police are investigating why the dogs did this- well as they are dead how are they ever going to know?

[Supragal]

Sorry do you mean why do people have rottys are pets or why do people keep guard dogs and double them up as pets?

[Pete]

I'm certain there's no more dog attacks on average now than there has ever been - the media are clearly jumping on it for the shock values.

 

How dense do you have to be to leave a small child with a Rottweiler?

 

Dogs are only dangerous if you do not train and control them or treat them badly. It's shocking the way some dogs are treated and no surprise they turn.

 

I also believe you cannot trust any dog 100%.

[Green Peace]

Im on the fence on this one...I guess at the end of the day its an accident and a very rare one.

 

But I guess if I was the father of the baby I would be, wanting all dangerous breeds destroyed.

 

Im sure a Border Collie could kill a baby if it was a bit nutty....so I think this should be viewed as an individual situation...its very rare and I guess, its down to the owners of the Dog and maybe even the parents of the baby...

 

I thought it was illigal to breed this type of dog anyhow and the only ones alive should be the ones who were born before they passed that bill though..but maybe Im wrong I dunno!

 

Very sad though.

[garethr]

I thought it was illigal to breed this type of dog anyhow and the only ones alive should be the ones who were born before they passed that bill though..but maybe Im wrong I dunno!(

The dangerous dogs act banned the American Pit Bull Terrier, the Japanese Tosa (I think there was one in the UK at the time, the Dogo Argentino (none in the UK), and the Fila Brasiliero (none in the UK). God knows where the government got the latter two breeds from.

 

To be precise, it banned dogs of the pit bill "type", which was why, with the active help of the RSPCA and a few vets who presumably saw it as a nice little earner, the authorities were able to kill anything from Staffordshire Bull Terriers to labrador crosses (the vast majority of which had not bitten anyone).

 

(Give me 20 minutes and I'll tell you why I believe breed-specific legislation was crap then, and it would be crap now )

[Charlotte]

I totally agree with 'media jumping on bandwagon' type thing.

 

I don't see the problem with having any dog as a pet as long as the people looking after the dog are responsible.

 

The only time dogs attack is if they are of a nervous disposition/frightened or aren't properly brought up.

 

It's the same with kids, people need a licence before they decide to have them.

[jazz1]

yea but rottys are also known in the past for attacking their owners, basically it all depends of the dogs genetics

[Supragal]

 

It's the same with kids, people need a licence before they decide to have them.

 

[Class One]

The problem with dogs like Rottys' and such like are that they can either be one or the other but never both. What I mean is, that as a family pet you will have total loyalty from them. But these dogs were used as guard dogs, so they can NEVER be a pet as well.

 

I've also noticed where i work that there has been a proliferation in the ownership of pit bull type dogs, by the chav masses and whilst these dogs in themselves are good dogs to own, its the owners thats usually turn them into uncontrollable beasts that attack anything.

 

The Dangerous Dogs Act and associated legislation isn't very good at prtecting the public, and I can see antisocial behaviour legislation getting used against owners in the future.

 

What a tragic waste of life and a truly awful way to die.

[Supragal]

yea but rottys are also known in the past for attacking their owners, basically it all depends of the dogs genetics

 

 

Are they?

 

I would be suprised if there was any breed of dog that hasn't bitten someone at some point.

 

I wouldn't trust my own dogs 100%, I would never leave them alone with kids regardless of the fact that they adore people and especially children, they lick them and play with them, even so all it takes is a child to hurt a dog in play for the dog (who would more than likely see themselves as dominant) to put the child in it's place same as it would a puppy.

 

Dogs don't have the same moral and social set up as humans. People forget this.

[Supragal]

It's exactly the same as when the knife amnesty was on... all of a sudden knife crimes were in the news.

[jazz1]

you see my dog hes big as f*ck white german sheppard these kind of dogs were used in russia i think as fighting dogs, you look at mine you wud probably shit ur pants and he is as friendly as hell never ever once attacked anyone and never will all depends how they are bought up aswell

[Supragal]

you see my dog hes big as f*ck white german sheppard these kind of dogs were used in russia i think as fighting dogs, you look at mine you wud probably shit ur pants and he is as friendly as hell never ever once attacked anyone and never will all depends how they are bought up aswell

 

but german shephards (even white ones ) have bitten people in the past. Exactly the same goes for rotties, dobes, staffs, whatever.

 

If a kid stuck a knitting needle down your dogs ear what would it do?

 

The dangerous dogs list annoys me. A lower category (ones you can own) contains a list of potentially dangerous dogs- which, if you read it is basically a list of large breed dogs. Being big doesn't make them dangerous.

[jazz1]

thats different if i stick a needle in ur ass big one u wud react any thing would that relates to pain

[Havard]

Don't claim to be an expert on this but after having two kids and Rotties in my family as a kid I wouldn't trust one for a sec.

 

When we visit the family my and if lad (3) giggles or cries the dogs seem to react weirdly. They go very quiet and stare at the child. They seem fixated on the noise.

 

I wonder if the incident in Leicester was due to the baby crying. Either way, to leave a 5 month old in a pub with those dogs was a stupid thing to do whether the door was open or not. People have a habit of leaving doors open!

 

My mum has a 10 year old female rot and i,ve never let her babysit my son at her house, my missus is paranoid aswell.

 

Shame cos they can be wonderful dogs! But its like having a grenade in your living room.!!!!

 

H.

[Supragal]

Yes, so therefore no-one can say that no dog would never attack someone.

[Supragal]

When we visit the family my and if lad (3) giggles or cries the dogs seem to react weirdly. They go very quiet and stare at the child. They seem fixated on the noise.

 

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Ok so now take a child thats not seen babies before and watch it's reaction when the baby cries.... chances are they will stare

 

But quite right- not worth taking the chance!!!

[Charlotte]

The dangerous dogs list annoys me. A lower category (ones you can own) contains a list of potentially dangerous dogs- which, if you read it is basically a list of large breed dogs. Being big doesn't make them dangerous.

 

Me too, this is what really gets on my nerves. Ok I don't profess to know the ins and outs of the whole thing, or have any experience with owning a larger dog. BUT the only dangerous/horrible dogs I've ever known have been Yorkshire Terriers.

 

My grandma had one and it used to bite every human in sight. It should have been put down but it was a present from my granddad and after he died it was the only thing that was left for her. It was so vicious (and I have the scars to prove it).

 

So, why aren't all dogs considered dangerous, until they have the correct training/are looked after properly?

[Supragal]

I suppose they are really I dunno, they've got big teeth and do a lot of damage when they do bite.

[Ian C]

Exactly, all dog ownership should be banned If it saves just one life it's a sacrifice worth making. And anyway, no-one *needs* a pet dog.

 

-Ian

[RobSoarer2.5TT]

Any dog can be a pet/ lap dog or a gaurd dog it's all dependant on training.

 

My parents had Rots, they used to babysit my sister when she was a baby. My mum would put my sister in her cot/ play pen/ walker/ bouncer anything and the 2 rots would sit by her and look after her. They'd never leave her side, and as she was growing up they were always together

 

If she cried, whined etc they would come and tell you, in a Lassie style. Our Rots were fine. She used to pull thier ears, climb over them, sleep on them. They never growled and infact where the proudest sarogate parents.

 

It's all about the training. Our dogs were taught they were part of OUR pack not the other way round. It not hard to do you just to take the time to do it. Dogs are as well behaved as the training they have had. As someone said dogs are either one way or the other it's the owners choice.

 

As another example my parents had a Border Terrier when I was older and she was the perfect lap dog, if you had 2 legs you were fine.

 

BUT

 

She was aggressive towards other dogs. This was solely my parents fault as they spent more time traning another Rot, so she felt the other dog was getting more attention and resented it.

 

Dogs crave attention as we all do and provided they are in a loving home and trained properly any dog can be left with a baby with 100% confidence.

 

I however, wouldn't trust leaving a young child around a dog if I ddin't know how the animal, or how it had been trained.

[supraaaaaaaaaa]

Exactly, all dog ownership should be banned If it saves just one life it's a sacrifice worth making. And anyway, no-one *needs* a pet dog.

 

-Ian

 

balls, its just natural selection if your stupid enough to leave your door open near two big rottys then your to stupid to have kids and your genes shouldnt be passed on