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As I understand it the SAS and SBS used to be separate units, with obviously strong rivalry between the two but both with very different functions.

 

The SBS thought the SAS were flash ba*tards, being the far more low key and covert of the two. The two units where brought under a single command a few years ago, something neither unit was happy about. Both recruit civies, as well as from the forces.

 

The SBS gets my vote.

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we're not nocking them its the truth.

 

England take over the New world and kick fance etc out. (we win)

 

War of inderpendance: Americans need French help and then England decide it just wasnt worth it (George Washington actualy wanted to be an English officer but was turned down as he wanst officer material)

 

American Civil war: Woohoo the americans won that one (but they also lost)

 

WW1: They kinda sat that one out until the end and even then it wasnt that much of a help

 

WW2: Again they DIDNT win the war it was a joint effort and the Russians had a massive play in the part.

 

Vietnam: had there asses handed to them

 

Gulf 1 a new Bush: Again they are forced to pull out

 

Guld 2 Bush Strikes back: well we all know what a f**k up thats turned out.

 

I am sure there are many more wars that america has lost but it just makes me laugh that every time they do a war film they always win with a 1 man army who carrys 9000000 guns. Or if it is a WW2 its always USA! USA! USA! when most of the worst fighting was either the russians or the SAS

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I am sure there are many more wars that america has lost but it just makes me laugh that every time they do a war film they always win with a 1 man army who carrys 9000000 guns.

 

Surely not.... So The Great Escape, Enigma, Pearl Harbour, U-571 and the Patriot aren't entirely accurate?. :innocent:

 

Don't even get me started on Brave Heart.:taped:

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Whoa thread explosion!

OK then lots of opinions. So the SBS are pretty damn good but maybe held back because they are purely sea exercises, whereas SAS are all-rounders so overall would be better? MArines are just woosy?

 

Is that a cross between being a Ninja and Jujitsu?

 

No, it's the Japanese martial art incorperating Taijutsu as it's main defence style. People who originally studied Ninjutsu never called themselves Ninjas either.

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Shouldn't you be having a punch up in a chippie somewhere :p

 

That brings back fond memories of my youth!:)

 

Para's are very dynamic though - one minute in a chip shop fight, the next; a full scale 10-hour battle in Afghanistan where their muckers are getting the shit blown out of them!

 

They get my vote Sir!!

 

There's only the UK Military's performance in current global operations keeping the international reputation of this country above water IMHO!!

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mate of mine used to load up the hercules and galaxy's for the RAF. we had a similar conversation and one thing he told me was it was the americans who had the reputation for toys, but the brits for out n out soldering. one time he had some delta force boys fly in with 4 glaxays full of equipment, where as the sas turned up in a hercules and a few ruck sacks.

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If you think the American's history of losing wars is bad. Type 'French Military Victories' into Google and hit I feel lucky!!!

 

ha yeah the French suck as well oh did I mension that we had an empire mwhahahaha.............oh but then the queen gave it all back :(

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Accorind to the reports coming out of Iraq our armed forces always seem to be lacking on equipment and having to borrow from the yanks. :(

 

The topic of equipment is always a sensitive issue but the Brits certainly don’t borrow any kit from the US military. There is very little interaction with UK and US military on operations as they don’t work well together – not at all! The mentalities between the 2 forces are just too different to be cohesive in battle.

 

There seems to be a perception that the US guys have all the kit (and no idea – I agree with this bit), but in reality they too have a great number of equipment shortfalls – There are a few exceptions to the rule though Bobbeh!

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the Brits certainly don’t borrow any kit from the US military.

 

Um I beg to differ old bean. Pretty much every operation we were involved in we "borrowed" chinook spares from the yanks. Bosnia we paid them a visit for quite a lot of stuff. When we broke down in Germany they bailed us out again. We loaned some stuff from them in Afghanistan, and then again in Gulf war the sequel. Parts wise they bail us out all the time because we as technicians go speak to their technicians. Funnily enough its the same old us at every event, and the same old them at the events. In their case though its usually civvies they drag around various war zones.

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Um I beg to differ old bean. Pretty much every operation we were involved in we "borrowed" chinook spares from the yanks. Bosnia we paid them a visit for quite a lot of stuff. When we broke down in Germany they bailed us out again. We loaned some stuff from them in Afghanistan, and then again in Gulf war the sequel. Parts wise they bail us out all the time because we as technicians go speak to their technicians. Funnily enough its the same old us at every event, and the same old them at the events. In their case though its usually civvies they drag around various war zones.

 

:werd:

 

Arent our soldiers nicknamed 'The Borrowers' precisely because of this.

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:werd:

 

Arent our soldiers nicknamed 'The Borrowers' precisely because of this.

 

Oh yeah and in Afghanistan the flintstone army cos of the archaeic accomodation (tents from the 50's), no showers (bring a bag with a hose on it and hang it in the sun affair), no aircon, no desert boots, half the guys in half green half dessie kit, weapons that were still under testing because we were too tight to buy new ones so rehashed the old ones and called them a heckler and koch (what a load of shite). Thats before we get to PX's, coke machines, burger kings etc etc lol.

 

To be fair its our lack of rescources that has made us the force we are. Take a yanks aircon away and he just sits there. We however never had it but know exactly where to appropriatte it from :D

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