Guest mk47 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 im currently at university doing business information technology (bsc) - and in a few months i have to start looking for work as part of my sandwich course (a year to work before returning back to uni). Now theres 1000's of jobs involving IT i just want some input from people who work within the field, i.e. most enjoyable, best paid, most prospects in future and ofcourse progression/training etc. Ive heard about cisco networking and briefly know about how its a top dog job in the i.t. world, or is that just me thinking so? I would prefer to go abroad (dubai etc) but ofcourse i need to get my head straight about what i want to do first. Programming isnt really my thing as it does my head in, and maths the same. Advice much appreciated from all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Bugger off abroad instead and don't whatever you do waste it doing an IT job I'd head down the networking/cisco/security path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Bugger off abroad instead and don't whatever you do waste it doing an IT job I'd head down the networking/cisco/security path. I need serious advice now (not saying your not) lol but im just thinking then have i just wasted a year studying IT so far? as i do hear now and then that IT is not what it used to be etc? i can change my direction at the summer of 2007 should i decide to do another course, and enter directly into it. whats the best way to go, and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 IT is poor paid. If you HAVE to get into IT then specialise and contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 You should definately chose something in the IT field that you're interested in. I enjoyed database design and project management/consultancy etc so thats where I ended up. Theres nothing worse then doing something that isnt interesting to you. What modules have you been studying at Uni? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 IT is poor paid. If you HAVE to get into IT then specialise and contract Define poorly paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I cant help you mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Ive heard about cisco networking and briefly know about how its a top dog job in the i.t. world, or is that just me thinking so? Cisco is flavour of the month, in a short while the market will be saturated with wannabes because they heard it was the thing to do - forget the latest thing, start looking for the next big one and try to get in there early.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 You should definately chose something in the IT field that you're interested in. I enjoyed database design and project management/consultancy etc so thats where I ended up. Theres nothing worse then doing something that isnt interested to you. What modules have you been studying at Uni? database design and also systems analysis where my stronger points last year.. last year the modules i did included - database design concepts, systems analysis and design, computer technology and programming. i enjoy working with websites and stuff, this year the chosen modules include - multimedia and internet technology, e commerce - and the other one i cant remember now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Define poorly paid. I'm 24, in IT for 7 years and earn 21k as a network engineer (well I will when I start on Monday). My first wage in IT was 7k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I cant help you mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I was an Analyst/Programmer for 6 years, up til I got made redundant this time last year. It's an alright way of learning a living I suppose. The money was pretty good but the work is dull. It's certainly not what I'd choose if I had my time over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Stay out of desktop/helpdesk IT support, jobs (contract or permanent) are now very low paid and can be easily filled with the thousands of desperate IT grads once they realise they can't get a job at £25k a year after leaving uni. As mentioned, Cisco/networking, IP telephony are good techie areas, as well as Java, C++, etc. Program management/project management consultancy is where the real money is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I'm 24, in IT for 7 years and earn 21k as a network engineer (well I will when I start on Monday). My first wage in IT was 7k Do you think that the money you earn now is poor or do you mean your first wage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I was an Analyst/Programmer for 6 years, up til I got made redundant this time last year. It's an alright way of learning a living I suppose. The money was pretty good but the work is dull. It's certainly not what I'd choose if I had my time over. what others would you reccomend? as i believe its not too late for me to switch come summer 2007 id just have to join a course from there and do 2 years continuing on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Forget web design in terms of programming.. 16 year olds that do that shit are 10 a penny and theres a lot of competion and outsourcing in this field. I remember my e-commerce course at Uni, it was more designed around getting an idea, turning it into a valid business proposition making use of web technology to achieve it, rather than developing a flashy website etc. Also I wouldnt try and go where the money may be like Michael says.. you need to have more than one skill set otherwise you'll be left in the dust as IT moves onto new things quickly. You can make good money working on legacy systems if you know what you're doing, database design can bring great money depending on the system being developed, systems design/technical architechs also make good money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Do you think that the money you earn now is poor or do you mean your first wage? For up North I don't suppose I'm too bad off but pay scales in IT can vary a huge amount. The job I leave tomorrow is going for minimum wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I wish I were that poorly paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I wish I were that poorly paid. Doesn't supprise me. The silicone age has died... the plumbing era has taken off I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 You can make good money working on legacy systems if you know what you're doing Very true. I know mainframe A/Ps making 2.5k a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 whats legacy systems? and is it something i can get into at university or any particular courses to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Its old school systems that have been in place for years, coded in something archaic Like old banking systems, stock systems etc.. ie when fixes need doing the skillset of those available to do work on such systems is limited, therefore those who can work can charge more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Cisco is not the way to go. It is purely - a fashionable thing - you need to go in and sell yourself as a project IT/administration - offer a service - make yourself wanted - and sell yourself - and what you can offer - don't worry about certain programmes/functions. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 whats legacy systems? Legacy = old shit that is still used but people generally don't learn anymore and businesses don't buy anymore. Edit: Bah! Bobbeh beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 whats legacy systems? and is it something i can get into at university or any particular courses to do? get into banking systems/financial transaction processing systems etc - stupid money to be made - my ideal job would be base24 developer - they get no less then 100k a year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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