Tom Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 Just browsing autotrader and came across this from keighley trade centre, 6th down http://www.dealer.autotrader.co.uk/_keighleyframe7.htm Pic of engine attached, can you imagine the insurance!! "yes i'd like to insure a supra SZ-R with a turbo kit!!" Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 and 2 extra injectors clagged on to stop it melting ...... nice !!! dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 im no expert, but too me it looks like kind of a bodge job...or almost like it hasnt been looked after once installed. Dude why would you need 2 extra injectors if it a Kit for the NA??? I dont know much about the turbo they saying is on it, whats the estimated RWHP from that particular turbo?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 That place is *so* dodgy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_TC Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 The injectors are for extra fuelling, and I believe Christian Doran runs twin 2835's?? on his TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 Originally posted by mcanny That place is *so* dodgy! Yes, heard bad stuff about that place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 Originally posted by Syed Shah Yes, heard bad stuff about that place! I've been over there a few times - they really seem to have a knack of bringing over some 'interesting cars' (when I drove past last week they has an EVO VI in full rally trim, stripped etc and a line of WRX's, Supras etc) but when you get there and see them there always seems to be something not quite right. The biggest issue they have is paintwork, a lot of the cars are either multi-coloured or just one nasty non-standard shade, the J-Spec Supras seem to have a lot of UK parts on them (full interiors, front bumpers etc) and some of the Supras have really cheap alloys with 215's all round. I went over to look at a Skyline recently - the nice dark purple colour - and it was sitting there in huge alloys and looking good, upon closer inspection the alloys had house brick sized chunks missing from them, the tyres has similar lumps missing and the general condition of the car was poor. It's a shame because they get some nice sounding stuff - weird Japanese vans, MX5's with Turbos, Modded this and that... they sell cheap but they must buy VERY cheap and then bodge them a bit. It's odd really, every garage that has been on that site has been dodgy but owned by different people..... Still if anyone wants me to nip over and get pics of the Supra in question I'll try to, if it's anything like normal it won't be there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I too have been there on many occaisions and TOTALLY a gree with what michael says, there is always something not right, I wouldnt buy a single thing from there. On another point, I can only sympathise with *OUCH* @ what the insurance would be like on an NA-T. Firstly the NA's are more expensive to insure than a TT due to a UK model not being produced, then you say "I have a turbo on it", "how much HP increase does that add" says the insurance company.......the rest is history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400BHP Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I didn't think the N/A engines were as strong as the turbo, the turbo having a thicker block, stronger rods etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 Originally posted by 400BHP I didn't think the N/A engines were as strong as the turbo, the turbo having a thicker block, stronger rods etc.... Not the case, the engine has equal power ability as the TT variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I'm pretty sure i've read on here that when going big single it wasn't important if you were starting with NA or TT base engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 saying that it might have been assuming piston / rod upgrades for both and therefore not important what you start with....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 The only differences I know of are no oil squirters for the piston undersides and a different compression ratio. The lack of oil squirters will limit the engine's ability to dissipate large amounts of heat comparing stock for stock with the turbo version, and the higer compression ratio means boost pressures have to be kept really rather low. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 Originally posted by Ian C The only differences I know of are no oil squirters for the piston undersides and a different compression ratio. Exactly right Ian, those are the only differences as far as the shortblock is concerned, and both are easily changeable. If your after a mad 800bhp+ platform, both choices are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Not being funny, but that car is on a V plate, and the engine looks worse than our 94 SZ-R..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 The insurance hike isn't what you might think it would be. Tesco's quoted me an extra 165 quid a year when I asked them about the price increase to supercharge mine. All they were interested in was what the BHP increase would be on a percentage basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 :D :D Haha this one has an "auto spots box" TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 R2 TWIN TURBO, 93, 59000 miles, import, auto spots box, climate, cruise, PAS, a/b, e/seat, bodykit, 17 alloys, s/s exhaust, T&T, HKS air filter. £7,995 . P/X warr. Tel: 01535 691530 ,. 07970 5219930 http://www.keighleycartradecentre.co.uk it works lol Fifty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Adam Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Originally posted by whitesupraboy2 im no expert, but too me it looks like kind of a bodge job...or almost like it hasnt been looked after once installed. Dude why would you need 2 extra injectors if it a Kit for the NA??? I dont know much about the turbo they saying is on it, whats the estimated RWHP from that particular turbo?? hehe im not sure if Dude was for real...think that was just a joke. When running high amounts of boost you constantly need more fueling. If not you run lean and start detonating! More boost more fuel. On the old Rs Escort's like your old 1, they used to use a fifth injector to spray straight into the inlet manifold to compensate. Bit crude but did the job. Apparently (quoted from Suprastore..must be ball shit) you'd be expecting around 400Bhp not sure if that from the wheels though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Adam Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Originally posted by Fiftyplus1 :D :D Haha this one has an "auto spots box" TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 R2 TWIN TURBO, 93, 59000 miles, import, auto spots box, climate, cruise, PAS, a/b, e/seat, bodykit, 17 alloys, s/s exhaust, T&T, HKS air filter. £7,995 . P/X warr. Tel: 01535 691530 ,. 07970 5219930 http://www.keighleycartradecentre.co.uk it works lol Fifty Somebody rescue that Supe and remove them spots ......that can't be legal surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Originally posted by TDRAPER Uk's First N/A-T QUOTE] Nope........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Originally posted by #1 Adam hehe im not sure if Dude was for real...think that was just a joke. When running high amounts of boost you constantly need more fueling. If not you run lean and start detonating! More boost more fuel. On the old Rs Escort's like your old 1, they used to use a fifth injector to spray straight into the inlet manifold to compensate. Bit crude but did the job. Apparently (quoted from Suprastore..must be ball shit) you'd be expecting around 400Bhp not sure if that from the wheels though? 2 extra injectors clagged into prob. the intake pipe is not a very scientific way of distributing fuel evenly to the cylinders , the rear ones wont be very happy , the only CORRECT way to do it is to increase the SIZE of ALL the inj. and control them with piggy backs or aftermarket ECU's , to prove my point how many times do tuned Cossy's and RS's blow up , but there again FORD does stand for Found On Road Dead !!!! Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Adam Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Yeh for sure!!.....wouldn't dispute that:p I think maybe the way Dangerous Brain's going about his conversion is the way forward.....TT lump transplant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.