Markie Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Ahh right.. Sorry mate, thought he just wanted to get fat Did not think along hte lines of cutting up aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 If you just want to get fat, Stella and Curry seems to work well. If you want to gain muscle, have a read here: http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/ A mate of mine suggested this diet for me: Cut diet Breakfast - Protein shake + bowl of oats with water and rasins. (sometimes add egg whites in omlette) 10am - Chicken breast cut up in a box just grilled and a banana and 2 rice cakes 1pm - Tuna (brine or water) plain white rice (uncle bens boil in bag 76g) and peas 3.30pm - Protein shake, high protein flapjack (dorein yates one) or subs the protein shake for another chicken breast if poss. 5.30pm Training just water or rick kick 6.30pm Post training meal rep i.e. metrx or myoplex 7.30ish dinner - Grilled meat maybe turkey, steak or fish, jacket pot and veggies zma before bed and sleep. At weekends I may eat more carbs if im looking too flat so have more oats or plain rice with each chicken breast Bulk diet Breakfast - meal replacement + bowl of oats with water and rasins. (sometimes add egg whites in omlette) 10am - Chicken breast cut up in toasted sandwich just grilled add some olive or flaxseed oil when cooking if u like and a banana and 4 rice cakes 1pm - Tuna (brine or water) plain white rice (uncle bens boil in bag 76g) and peas and a banana 3.30pm - Meal replacement, high protein flapjack (dorein yates one) or subs the protein shake for another chicken breast if poss. 5.30pm - Training carbo drink 60-100g carbs 6.30pm - Post training meal rep i.e. metrx or myoplex 7.30ish dinner - Grilled meat maybe turkey, steak or fish, jacket pot and veggieszma before bed 30mins later muller rice then sleep. Id eat this in the week and have 6 dinners at weekend - pasta, rice spag bowl pizza anything I can get my hands on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 lol i wana turn it into muscle but so fed up as im trying to gain the two extra stones Trying to turn fat to muscle is impossible, there two diffrent things.....train very hard using compound exercises and eat lots of chicken, broccoli, fish and rice have a multi vitamin morning and night stay away from any kind off calorie or weight gainer drinks...there calorie content is mainly made up of sugars so your doing yourself no good at all, and worse case....and I have seen it happen you can become diabetic A lot comes down to genetics as well and believe it or not, the length of your muscles has a lot to do with how much bulk your frame can take, if you have not got the right genetics for building stupid amounts of muscle you will never be as big as arnie.....ive been training for 5 yrs and only just found this out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Amino acids and creatine in liquid form (easier on the kidneys). Good reasonable foods. Work muscles in their groups and try to understand what secondary muscles are being used so that you dont over work them. I didnt train to gain weight, but t happened and as said on here everyone is different. Legs are important, there is nothing more funny than watching the mirror boys felxing their biceps wih their chicken legs. Take your time with free weights and get a partner, do the weights correctly and dont get compulsive about the weight you are pushing (my friend was obsessed about benching 60kg, it took him months but his technique was spot on and not boucning off his chest). Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 prpblem i have is when i do squats i get cramps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 prpblem i have is when i do squats i get cramps The legs are the biggest muscle group - I think. Are you drinking plenty of fluids? How many reps are you doing and weight? Machine or free weight on bar across shoulders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 weird, but get the legs growing as well. this usually stimulates more growth horemone being released and helps other bodyparts develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 i know i still do legs but lightly not heavy as im scared of getting cramps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 At what point? How many reps have you done at what weight and how long for? Is it just squats or leg curls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 squats on the finally rep after lifting 80 and then walking away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Heavy weights small reps sounds to me more like a strength program rather than a bodybuilding one. A good article here that i have used in the past: CLICK ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Eating Pizza or McDonalds dont add weight to me.. Basicly nothing does....gonna give the pasta/white bread a go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Heavy weights small reps sounds to me more like a strength program rather than a bodybuilding one. A good article here that i have used in the past: CLICK ME that looks an auwfull lot of intense work in there and could constitute to overtraining for a lot of people, but everybody responds differently to different workouts, if its working for you keep going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Just stay healthy mate. Don't forget to have a protein shake after your workout too - this is when the body will be gasping for more protein. Remember, the body first uses protein to repair the muscles, only then (if there's enough) will it use the protein to build. Might be worth getting a personal trainer for a session once a week, someone who is qualified would really be able to help you towards your goals faster. This is good advice, (he's talking about the 'protein window = 45 mins post workout is when the body best takes in protein used for rebuilding) along with what Syed posted earlier around page 2/3. FFS - Stay away from the godd*amn drugs. No steroids, no shots, no pills! Multi-vitamin if anything. Protein shakes if you like, avoid everything else and just eat right. It's the best path. Heavy weights, big power movements, large muscle groups. 4-5 days a week. Rest is very important. You need to get at least 8 hours of sleep the nite of a big workout (say like legs or back). Protein is the key to when it comes to food, but don't forget, protein is hard on your body to digest. You have to drink tons of water (it's also a fat evacuator) as it's the grease that makes everything flow. Eat tons of veggies with all that meat, fish, and eggs. If you don't, you're putting a lot of strain on your kidneys. Stay away from alcohol and nicotine if you're serious about getting big. They're both big time inhibitors. I started lifting seriously in 1994 and competed in my first BBing competition in 1998. I gained 33 lbs in two years, then lost 19 of it in 3.5 weeks. I did really well (finished 2nd in my weight class), but stopped competing as I didn't like the shifts in body weight and I just like to eat too much. Made me feel too unhealthy. Bottom line bro - do it the smart, safe, and healthy way. Oh, and get a good workout partner who's of the same philosophy. Avoid morons who think 'juicing' is the way to go. That'll be 50 pound please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 i wanted to put some bulk on aswell. ended up training 3 times a week, pushing heavy weights, while taking creatine, whey protien shakes, and eating 6-7 large meals a day. i was having 12 egg whites a day for breakfast. loads of chicken, fish and pasta. its better to miss a training session, than to miss a meal. ended up where i wanted to be after a year and half of training hard. i'm now 18 stone with a 52inch chest. it all boils down to eating right and training hard. good luck baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 i wanted to put some bulk on aswell. ended up training 3 times a week, pushing heavy weights, while taking creatine, whey protien shakes, and eating 6-7 large meals a day. i was having 12 egg whites a day for breakfast. loads of chicken, fish and pasta. its better to miss a training session, than to miss a meal. ended up where i wanted to be after a year and half of training hard. i'm now 18 stone with a 52inch chest. it all boils down to eating right and training hard. good luck baz 52 inch waist? you mean 32? 52 inches would put you at the size of a large house, aka obese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 as i said......52 chest mate not waist, god forbid. hee hee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 as i said......52 chest mate not waist, god forbid. hee hee Ugh... too many beers last nite and not enough coffee yet I guess. Read the f*cking post stupid. Sorry. That's definitely respectable mate. I don't know what 18 stone is (don't have my metric-standard-uk decoder ring on), but 52 inch chest is huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Move to holland, cheap beer and chips in 3 months have done me 2 stone and I don't usually put weight on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 that looks an auwfull lot of intense work in there and could constitute to overtraining for a lot of people, but everybody responds differently to different workouts, if its working for you keep going Yep your totally right i should have added that at the start really. We are all indeed different, and there is no magic formula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 i could eat anything i wanted and still struggled to put on weight. found out the only way i could do it was to eat healthy and lift heavy weights. i put on a stone in the first year. as strange as it sounds i cutted down on fatty foods and had a healthy balanced diet. if you cant put on weight easily then stuffing your face with fatty foods aint gonna work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 I'm in the same boat dude. I look like a racing snake and there's NOTHING will put on weight. Don't bother with the whole weight gain 300000000 stuff... your body won't be able to handle it and you'll just pass it straight away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 cheers il try that i hardly eat pasta how much do you weigh?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris aka fonz Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 I have names for all the big guys at my gym , one inperticular i call power lifting Pete says ' More you eat , bigger ya get ' . Seems to of worked for him he's massive . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 To be fair consulting a proper personal fitness trainer and following a "good" diet and fitness regime should put the lb's in the right places. Everybody is very different in body and mind and to go for a single method is going to result in difficulties. If you work with a professional trainer they can adapt a program to suit your needs. Then when you have the program you need you can strike out on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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