Paul Whiffin Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I've got a car for sale at the moment which is doing some funny things on the standard traction control. At low speeds, say up to around 10mph, the slipping symbol lights up on the dash and then it switches to snow mode and stays that way until you push the off button. Anyone got any ideas why its doing this? Its a VVTi model if that makes any difference. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Does the ABS work still? -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraguy Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Hrm.. bad speed sensor? Think it works by comparing front wheels to the rear. If it exceeds a set tolerance, it will turn on the traction control. If it really exceeds that limit, it will lock it into snow mode until you press the Trac button to turn off and reset it. This is what people bitch about when they get excessive wheelspin when pulling across lanes of traffic and the snow mode kicks in and the car is powerless in oncoming traffic. As for the fault, have you pulled any fault codes? You activate the engine check codes by placing a small length of copper wire between TE1 and E1 in the engine diagnostic circuit box. There are actually 2 boxes that contain these circuits and you can use either one. One is in the engine bay near the throttle body and the other is under the drivers footwell at around knee height. You read the diagnostic codes on the engine check light which is to the right of the drivers steering wheel (RH drive vechicles) at the level of the top of the steering wheel. For example, if you have a code 31, it will blink 3 times then 1 time, pause then repeat. If you have more then one code, then it will display them all in order and then continue to repeat them. Codes - http://mkiv.supras.org.nz/articles/engine_1.htm -------------------------------------------- I will have a look at my old notes when I was troubleshooting my Trac fault last year. There might be some more info about diagnosing the TRAC system in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Not an ABS sensor then. Does the check engine light come on when you accelerate strongly and constantly in higher gears? -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 try accelerating a bit slower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 Originally posted by Ian C Not an ABS sensor then. Does the check engine light come on when you accelerate strongly and constantly in higher gears? -Ian Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 Originally posted by Supraguy Hrm.. bad speed sensor? Think it works by comparing front wheels to the rear. If it exceeds a set tolerance, it will turn on the traction control. If it really exceeds that limit, it will lock it into snow mode until you press the Trac button to turn off and reset it. This is what people bitch about when they get excessive wheelspin when pulling across lanes of traffic and the snow mode kicks in and the car is powerless in oncoming traffic. As for the fault, have you pulled any fault codes? You activate the engine check codes by placing a small length of copper wire between TE1 and E1 in the engine diagnostic circuit box. There are actually 2 boxes that contain these circuits and you can use either one. One is in the engine bay near the throttle body and the other is under the drivers footwell at around knee height. You read the diagnostic codes on the engine check light which is to the right of the drivers steering wheel (RH drive vechicles) at the level of the top of the steering wheel. For example, if you have a code 31, it will blink 3 times then 1 time, pause then repeat. If you have more then one code, then it will display them all in order and then continue to repeat them. Codes - http://mkiv.supras.org.nz/articles/engine_1.htm -------------------------------------------- I will have a look at my old notes when I was troubleshooting my Trac fault last year. There might be some more info about diagnosing the TRAC system in particular. There is no TE1 on the VVTi model so can't do that old trick...unless there is another way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Whiffin Nope So it's not the ABS or the No1 vehicle speed sensor. Hmmm. TBH I'm out of ideas now, from a remote-diagnosis point of view. How about yanking out the trac ECU? -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 Whats the best way to test an ABS sensor? I've tried slamming on the brakes and none of the wheels lock up.....but then the fault only appears to be at low speeds, below around 10-15 mph, after that the problem doesn't exist. Wouldn't be anything to do with a speedo converter would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Has the speed signal wire to the TRAC ecu been used for something else either now or in the past?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 Not as far as I know, the car is completely stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Whiffin Whats the best way to test an ABS sensor? I've tried slamming on the brakes and none of the wheels lock up.....but then the fault only appears to be at low speeds, below around 10-15 mph, after that the problem doesn't exist. Wouldn't be anything to do with a speedo converter would it? Certainly worth taking it off and testing it (the TC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 Think I'll take the converters off to make sure of that first, you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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