SupraStar 3000 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Haven't been to the air show but visited the museum a couple of weeks ago, fantastic day out Jo didn't seem to understand why I was so excited about touching a 'Blackbird' and standing in a B52 wheel bay Planning to go back when they finally open the new Air Space hangar. another one for the club meet then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Just ordered the book from Play.com (£6) Thanks I read it a while ago. Ward was in command of the Harriers on the Invincible. He may be biased, but it's fascinating to read about the rivalry, not only between the Fleet Air Arm and the RAF, but also between the Harrier squadrons on the two carriers. To the extent that the Hermes squadron wouldn't take advice from the Invincible about calibrating the Harriers' radar. The overall impression from the book is that they were lucky to get away with it (and he points out that they won't the next time, because we've built a nice new runway which will take any aircraft the Argentinian air force care to land on it, so they won't have to fly from the mainland ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 another one for the club meet then? It's a bit of a trek for me but count me in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I think you will find the Vulcan bomber "missed" at port stanley mostly due its clockwork bomb aiming device ,a newer aircraft would have been far more effective but the old school just had to use the Vulcan once in anger! once upon a time they used to do a full roll on air displays never saw it do one myself but it must have been quite a sight! they stopped doing them due to airframe cracks . they were long past their sell by date when the falklands happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaoriFan Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 from what i remember (though i may be wrong), that out of the bombs it dropped only one hit the outer edge of the runway, and did not do much damage. still, it was a really lovely looking aircraft. went to RAF Scampton once when i was younger, and my father took some photos of the Vulcan taking off, and it had its bomb bay open. the plain clothes security police took us to the guard house, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trig Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Would love to see one flying again!! Such an impressive aircraft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I remember also seeing a Handley Page Victor when I was young, not sure if it was still an active bomber or converted to a tanker though. Dad told me how much of an impression the Valliant had made before that but nothing compared to the Vulcan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_y3k Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 theres a book out now (whise name i forget) all about the raid ... basically we had no aircraft cabable of doing the damage needed. The vlucans were almost out of commioon but they were bougth back on line, plus all the victors for the air refulleing and they went for it ... really interesting read, not just about the Vulcan but the typical brit mentality. for instance the vulcan had a new ECM pod fitted but the aerial it used would stay in the right place ... the solution .. lots and lots of superglue ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Keith and I did our bit and are sponsoring the normal and emergency bomb door buttons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trig Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 cool! is there a site where you can sponsor stuff?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 hi guys, didnt think many would be interested http://www.tvoc.co.uk/cgi-local/board/ikonboard.cgi i was at bruntingthorpe today cos its down the road, superb to see it again.. havnt seen for 10 or 15 years. its gona be based at here as perminent exhibit but will be off to air shows around the country next summer. test flys in april. but nothing flys from bruntingthorpe so some thing is gona have to change, test flyts are gona be hush hush untill they turn it on!!! then every one will know. ill keep you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 One of the reasons the Vulcan raid on Stanley was approved (besides being one of the few aircraft capable) was the psychological impact - them things look scary as fook in the air:) Success wasn't ever really anticipated (there were several other options in the pipeline but the Vulcan was chosen due to the impact it would make) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 One of the reasons the Vulcan raid on Stanley was approved (besides being one of the few aircraft capable) was the psychological impact - them things look scary as fook in the air:) Success wasn't ever really anticipated (there were several other options in the pipeline but the Vulcan was chosen due to the impact it would make) was truly a spectical and it wasnt even fired up!! gona be so loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Just read that Airfix have gone into receivership:( My love of planes (and tanks and ships and trains and on and on) grew up with Airfix, the sheer delight in building a model of something I'd seen for real was so much of my childhood and still is to some extent. Good to see something from those days saved for the next generation, sad to see something just as nostalgic going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Just read that Airfix have gone into receivership:( My love of planes (and tanks and ships and trains and on and on) grew up with Airfix, the sheer delight in building a model of something I'd seen for real was so much of my childhood and still is to some extent. Good to see something from those days saved for the next generation, sad to see something just as nostalgic going down. I used to love the Airfix kits too - propper pocket money stuff:) They started to go downhill when they were't allowed to show Brit planes etc. beating up the Germans?? I mean, what the feck is a Spitfire for if not to knock down nasty Messers? Another bit of the past dissapearing and nothing comparable to replace it:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 cool! is there a site where you can sponsor stuff?? http://www.tvoc.co.uk/howyoucanhelp.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 My old man will be really pleased he is in the vulcan club and helps at club days, he used to do the loading of bombs on the vulcans. I remember seeing one of these bad boys flying when i was a little boy the noise is absolutely awesome ! It will be a great day when it is flying again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 One of the reasons the Vulcan raid on Stanley was approved (besides being one of the few aircraft capable) was the psychological impact - them things look scary as fook in the air:) Success wasn't ever really anticipated (there were several other options in the pipeline but the Vulcan was chosen due to the impact it would make)Maybe, but it seems utterly pointless to me. They flew it 7,000 miles round trip, using 10 Victor tankers and over 135,000 gallons of fuel, to drop 21 thousand-pound bombs, which could have been carried by four Harriers. The fuel used for each Vulcan flight was enough for 260 Harrier bombing missions -- 1300 bombs. The Vulcan dropped the bombs at night from, I don't know... 20,000 feet?, so nobody on the ground saw them. In total there were four Vulcan bombing missions, one was aborted because someone left a window open, the other three dropped a total of 63 bombs, 21 hit the ground unarmed, and of the other 42, 41 missed, and one hit the edge of the runway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Good to see so many members are interested in this project Keeps us posted Steve btw: are you supraboy on the tvoc forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 A plane show meet sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 A plane show meet sounds great. yeah, id probably be up for that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 My parents live in Biggin Hill, and I used to love watching the Vulcan fly there. I'm sure the pilot flew low over the valley and put on full power on purpose... Once the roar of the engines had faded, and the windows had stopped shaking, all you could hear were 10's if not 100's of car alarms echoing through out the valley Myself and a mate ended up on the piss with two ex Vulcan pilots in Rome, they were down for the 6 nations match. These guys were in their 70's and out drank both of us, and had some great storys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaoriFan Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 i am up for a plane meet as well, there are so many options over the country would be good if there was a 'events/meet' section for specific topics, like aircraft days out. not sure if it would get missed in the regular 'events' area section. another book to check out Admiral Sandy Woodward, One Hundred Days, he was Falklands Battle Group commander. it follows his early naval training, but most of the book is to do with the Falklands campaign. really good read, didn't think i would enjoy it, but actually found it a good insight, away from the politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Best of the V planes IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 I would love to see a Vulcan flying in formation with a English Electric Lightning. Unfortunately it wouldn't happen over UK skys due to flying regulations. More likely happen in South Africa where they still have Lightnings flying. Think its called thunder valley. http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk/english_electric/lightning/lightjpeg.jpg Like the idea of a aircraft event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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