BigRoy Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Right off came the Khan 18's and on went the stock 17's. Well apart from a hernia lifting the 18's, WOW what a difference. I must admit I did doubt CW's comments regarding increased unsprung weight and larger diameter wheels affecting handling. I thought to myself well OK on a track maybe but everyday road useage? Well Chris the proof is in the pudding and WOW! So all I need now is 20" rims that weigh less than the stocks with tyres, look like 20's when parked up but morph into 17's once rolling! Seriously though what a diffence:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 My 18" Volk wheels are actually lighter than stock 17s, but they do change the handling a bit, Im going to get a decent alignment on it and see if that helps. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 So would a lighter or heaveir wheel be better for handling, only reason I ask is, cause I could imagine a lighter wheel getting dragged around more (like camber and grooves in the road) due to there being less weight in the wheel. I understand why people generally go for lighter wheels, but I presumed this was always a weight saving idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Heavier wider wheels would tramline more imho. I've certainly noticed a difference with mine. I'm going to do a weight comparison soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Wider wheels would tramline more yes, but what about wide light wheels as oppsosed to wide heavy wheels....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 The Volks I have are forged, I only noticed how light they were when I went to carry the 17s back in to the shed and realised the 18s were much easier to carry out. I then checked the weights and the 18s are lighter than stock 17s. Very few wheels are forged though so most weigh quite a bit. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason m Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by Branners The Volks I have are forged, I only noticed how light they were when I went to carry the 17s back in to the shed and realised the 18s were much easier to carry out. I then checked the weights and the 18s are lighter than stock 17s. Very few wheels are forged though so most weigh quite a bit. JB What wheels do you have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Rays Volk Racing SE37A http://www.mazdaevents.com/rockinrotary/wheel.jpg http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:vnWTaNujBc4J:www.simpsonwheels.com/se37a_l.jpg they have serious brake clearance on them, might even fit over APs or Brembo. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Surprise surprise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 not sure I understand, surprise surprise what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Volk have a very good reputation for making quality, lightweight wheels. If the Blitz Z1's didn't exist, I'd definitely have a set..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Originally posted by Branners not sure I understand, surprise surprise what? From the previous thread, when I stated that the stock 17s are suited to the car for handling, and 19s are not the way to go, to which some objected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 same with lowering springs though, quite often they can throw off the handling as well. Its a question of what you want from a car, I wanted the car to be on different wheels and sit lower than stock, I accept the handling has gone off a little but I dont push the car that hard anyway (Im getting old, things go by much quicker now than they used to ) so I accept its a problem. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Originally posted by Nick Volk have a very good reputation for making quality, lightweight wheels. If the Blitz Z1's didn't exist, I'd definitely have a set..... Deffo, I chose the Blitz purely for the looks, other than the Do-Luck I'd deffo go with Volks (or those manaray Hyper revolutions? alloys that I couldnt find for buggery). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weka Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Volks wheels. I went to see my new wheels yesterday (Volks CE28N) and was surprised how light they were even though they are 19X10.5 when I lifted one out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashpoint Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 looking good for me then as i've got a set of 18inch volk on the way:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weka Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Originally posted by cashpoint looking good for me then as i've got a set of 18inch volk on the way:) Which ones are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 The Blitz Z1's aren't too heavy but they can't compete with a set of quality forged rims. They look great though! Weka - How's the car coming along? PM if you like, don't want to hijack the thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weka Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Full rebuild is starting this week. I 'may' change the HKS GT-RS's to 2835 S Pro instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashpoint Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Originally posted by Weka Which ones are they? GT-U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam W Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Is there much of a weight difference in a 17" tyre vs an 18 or 19" tyre? I know the sidewalls are smaller (assuming the width stays the same for a fair comparison) so they should weigh less, but I'm sure I read that because the sidewall has to be so much stiffer they can end up being heavier in the larger diameter sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 just to tack on a relevant piece of info:- I was suprised to find that for the stock 17" sizes ie 235/40/17 and 255/35/17 the 255 rear tyre weighed in nearly 2lb's 'lighter' than the 235 front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Have to say that I've noticed a decrease in tramlining and general 'wandering-around-the-road-ness' on the drive back from Brighton this week after I had gone from 16s to 17s. I complained in the technical forum about how both my girlfriend and me had both noticed the car seemed to tramline a lot and then just suddenly go off in a new direction all by itself. I noticed it again on the drive down when at one point I'm physically applying pressure to turn the wheel to the left as the car tries to wander off to the right on a straight bit of road - it's really odd. On the drive back though I didn't notice it once, and the steering actually seemed lighter as well This all seems to go against the grain for moving up from 16s to 17s so I'm a bit perplexed. I still need to try it on a particularly vicious bit of tramlined road near my house to really compare directly (lorries have indented some lovely 'railway tracks' up a curving, uphill road for about 3/4 of a mile), but at the moment I certainly feel that the car is less unbalanced by potholes, camber, indents, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 ... (wait for it!) ... i have one of the heaviest rims made on mine ! bahh - go figure, as if i need the extra weight restriction !! Azev Type LS 2pc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Originally posted by 200SX Boy I still need to try it on a particularly vicious bit of tramlined road near my house to really compare directly (lorries have indented some lovely 'railway tracks' up a curving, uphill road for about 3/4 of a mile Got back 10 mins ago - confirmed, it's MILES better. Anyone on 16s I would recommend going up to 17s immediately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.