Daston Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Hi guys Would normaly be asking the ClubNA-T guys this but their site seems to be gone. Whats the max boost that the NA engine can hold on a stage 1 kit? Am I right in thinking its 8psi (being safe). Reason why I ask is cause I have a 5.8psi spring in my waste gate and was wondering if its worth putting a boost controler in to raise the boost to 8psi (or what ever the max safe figure is). Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I would not run more than 7psi, stick with the 5.8 spring and run that boost dont forget your fueling is so important buy a aem wideband to keep a check on things, trust me it is worth doing the head gasket at this stage as you will only want to up the boost very shortly after your install Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 I am going to run the Apexi S-AFC Neo is this any good Bromy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Not familiar with it, but make sure before you buy that someone has experience in setting one up as you may as well just go for a second hand safc, good luck with it and keep us informed, btw I would do a test fit of that manifold and turbo just to make sure about clearance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 The neo is the same as the S-AFC II but with some bell and whistles like full colour display and a few extra monitoring tools. When I take the Manifold off do I need to take out the down pipe as well or can I get away with not having to jack the car up? It's just I tried that approach and couldn't get the car high enough to crawl under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Yes As bromy said 7psi is the most you want to go to Dast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 Well thats one less thing to get, would better spark plugs be a good idea? Will try and take the manifold off this weekend that shouldnt be a problem its the putting it all back that could be fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Yes you will need to upgrade your plugs to 2 grades colder. Manifold is an easy job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 Do you have plugs in stock martin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Yes the Denso IK 24's. Next day delivery on those from us. http://www.mkivstore.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=1742 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 Cheers I will give you a shout when I get my FMIC sorted as thats the only part I am waiting on..........ooooh I'm so exited! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Do you need an FMIC? I have 3 boost logic NA-t IC's here in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Yes the Denso IK 24's. http://www.mkivstore.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=1742 Or NGK-BCPR7ES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Right removed intake piping and heatshield (snaped one bolt taking it out oops) Now the main nuts on the mani are looking like crap whats the best way to loosen them up before removing them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 WD40 or the likes of, have a set of mole grips handy too incase you snap the studs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Bromy, WD40 wont touch those studs for ages. Heat and Freeze spray, but Ive never had an issue with any NA studs in the manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Ok well its still bloody hot under there so going to let it fully cool down before I make a start. Will post pics when the turbo is on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Theyll come off easier when Hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 ok the 8 manifold bolts are off and the 2 o2 sensors are out now whats the easy way of getting the mainfold away from the down pipe is it a case of jacking up the front quater and squeezing under? or is there a cunning way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Take is out as one, unbolt the 2nd decat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 ok will give this a go tomorrow as I feel like crap at the mo (got some rubbish bug). Cheers for your help Martin much apreciated will get some pics up tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 If you want to push your NA-T performance nearer the limit (maintaining some margin of safety) then you really need something that will allow you to setup up the fuelling spot on and adjust your ignition timing. An EManage Ultimate (or even a Blue if you're not going stupid with injector size) would be perfect. I would also be ducting the front mount intercooler, heat shield on your intake, fitting a water injection system, consider a thermostat controlled oil cooler (to help remove heat from the combustion chamber and underside of the pistons as effectively as possible), make sure the coolant system is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Yeah at I will be doing that at a later stage at the moment I am just looking at running stage 1 and seeing how I get on. Does Emanage do the same as an Apexi SAFC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Yes but much better. More resolution on the fuelling adjustment plus ignition timing control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I have e-manage blue and we are not sure if the timing control feature will work with the distributor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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