spackrackman Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hi, I wanted some opinions thats all.. I have house up for sale that is a fair distance from where I live now, I got a local painter to paint the front windows and the door. I went to check the job last week, and non of the bloody windows would open. I tried to force one and due to them deing very very old and obvioulsy rotten the window broke instead of opening. The painter says, that he could not be around to leave the windows open and so its my fault. He knew that i lived no where near the place and never mentioned to me that they would need to be opened for a few days. This was over a month ago, and there is still wet paint on one of the windows that broke. So.. is it a bodge job? painting windows shut. Or my fault. I need to get an idea before I meet up with him tomorrow and argue the point. He is charging me 400 quid for four windows a door and frame. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 IMHO hes a pillock noone paints around window frames then shuts them FFS its an open and shut case - or not tell him youll give him a fiver 400 quid SHIT!!!! Rich:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 He is charging me 400 quid for four windows a door and frame. Got any more that need doing On the surface that looks like daylight robbery, but obviously without seeing the job it's impossible to be sure. These windows, they weren't 20 feet square, and at the top of a tower block, I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIJ8631 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 its an open and shut case - or not Rich:d Looks as if you've been framed and maybe a case of " I can see clearly now the 400 quid is gone" Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackrackman Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 no.. see picture of how tough the job was for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 He's taking the piss mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHTHEBISHOP Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Thoughts are:- He can whistle for his money until your windows are in the same condition they were before he started i.e. functional Could play it as follows:- here is £200 you will get the rest when i have the bill for sorting the damage from your shoddy workmanship. Or combinations of the above but definitely do not hand over all that money until the problem is rectified by him or a 3rd party at a cost to him. I will try and find out the legal angle on it for you if you want mate but for that sort of money you do not want to go down that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hmm, yes and no. What if he had left them open and it had been burgled? Did you say you would pay him to sit there and "watch paint dry" no pun intended. Plus the general opinion is that landlords are never too bothered about rental properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 This does seem a bit of a bodge-job mate. If he calls himself a reputable guy then he should have first brought the issue to your attention during the estimate phase; if not at that stage then he should (as a minimum), have phoned you to see what your intentions were about leaving the windows open/closed at the time of him conducting the work. A skilled and reputable tradesmen should not just assume that something is best for you and your property (i.e to close the windows in this instance) as he already knows that to do so will make a total pigs-ear of the job. My father had a very reputable interior design business and this was instilled in to his decorating boys before every job; especially the young ones! A painter & decorator (on advice from his client) will paint the windows shut 2 or 3 times as it increases the force resistance of a window in respect of any intruder attempting to break the window seal - I'm certain this is not what you wanted him to achieve for your home (nice house if I may say so!). I think you may need to put him on the spot about his conduct IMHO!! Regards buddy, Andrew:thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 iam gona start painting and decorating cos iam sick of office work, iam gona be charging 125 to 150 a day. this is 2 days work if done properly, did he undercoatg or just paint direct to remaining paint?? if so and hes supplied materials then hes not far out really £150 x 2 (Day rate) paint undercoat £15 gloss £15 thinners £2 brushes £5 travel £20 setup half day (sanding & prep, half day) £75 total £432. but hay its fair this should have been a quality job. with windows left open!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackrackman Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 I would like to give him a cheque for 200 and some keys so he can rectify the shut windows and then pay he balance, but unfortuantly both the two top windows are now damaged due to trying to open them and will prob need replacing.. so there is no point in him repainting bits etc.. I have such a feeling that I am gonna loose this one and end up paying for the job and then only to have the lot ripped out and replaced at a far far larger expense. Arrghhhh I hate confrontation............. as usual if you want a job done well Do it yourself.. arse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Im a builder and i subcontract a lot of work out... if they dont do a job right they dont get paid... simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I would like to give him a cheque for 200 and some keys so he can rectify the shut windows and then pay he balance, but unfortuantly both the two top windows are now damaged due to trying to open them and will prob need replacing.. so there is no point in him repainting bits etc.. I have such a feeling that I am gonna loose this one and end up paying for the job and then only to have the lot ripped out and replaced at a far far larger expense. Arrghhhh I hate confrontation............. as usual if you want a job done well Do it yourself.. arse! he should have put a panel pin between the window and frame, then shut the window on it and it would have still opened. windows are a shitty job, paint to paint even 5 hours later is like contact adheisive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Im a builder and i subcontract a lot of work out... if they dont do a job right they dont get paid... simple. if done right though jamie is it a fair price??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 if done right though jamie is it a fair price??? Its about what i would charge a customer, depending if there was any repairs to be made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Its about what i would charge a customer, depending if there was any repairs to be made thats good to know;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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