Jake Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I got this email today: Dear Mr L Jacobs We have received a complaint regarding an allegation of Copyright Infringement. We were supplied an IP address of the system that was sharing the alleged copyrighted material, which we traced to your PIPEX ADSL account. As I am sure you are aware, this breaches our Acceptable Use Policy, (http://www.pipex.net/legal/aup/ ) and many copyright laws, namely the Berne Convention. Please reply to this email within 7 days stating that your PIPEX account will not be used for copyright infringement or any breaches of the law or the PIPEX Acceptable Use Policy. Failure to respond or further infringements will cause your account to be temporarily suspended,and could also result in your account being terminated. ------Original Complaint------ 7 Aug 2006 05:05:45 GMT Notice ID: 21-1046164 Pipex Internet Ltd Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing on behalf of Symantec Corporation. Symantec owns the trademarks and holds the copyrights for numerous computer software products, including but not limited to a suite of computer utility and antivirus software products under the U.S. registered trademarks NORTON SYSTEMWORKS and NORTON ANTIVIRUS, and other software bearing the \"Norton\" or \"Symantec\" brand names. Symantec also holds the registered trademark in the U.S. and other countries for its name, SYMANTEC. Symantec\'s rights are evidenced by, among other things, registrations of its trademarks and copyrights with the United States Patent and Trademark Office and the United States Copyright Office. As you know, unauthorized use of Symantec\'s trademarks, and unauthorized copying and/or distribution of Symantec\'s copyrighted works, is a violation of federal and state laws. It is illegal to produce, sell or distribute such unauthorized works. Symantec has been notified that Pipex Internet Ltd provides Internet access for the IP address listed below. We have determined that unauthorized copying and distribution of one or more of our products (Please see evidence below), is taking place from that address. Such distribution is not authorized by Symantec, its agents or the law and thus constitutes infringement. Based on the above, the deliberate and clear infringement of Symantec\'s protected copyright and trademark rights, and the harm to Symantec\'s business and goodwill from the infringing use, Symantec demands that you immediately investigate and take action to stop this infringing activity, and inform us of the results of your actions. Symantec believes that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. Accordingly, we appreciate your efforts toward this common goal. The information contained in this notification is accurate. Under penalty of perjury, the undersigned is authorized to act on behalf of Symantec with respect to this matter. Please be advised that this letter is not and is not intended to be a complete statement of the facts or law as they may pertain to this matter or to Symantec\'s positions, rights or remedies, legal or equitable, all of which are specifically reserved. Thank you very much for your immediate assistance regarding this matter. Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter http://webreply.baytsp.com/webreply/...148aff93b955e4 For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the subject line mailto: Sincerely, Chansonette Connolly Manager, Global Anti-Piracy and Intellectual Property Enforcement Legal Department Symantec Corporation 350 Ellis Street Mountain View, CA 94043 Evidentiary Information: Notice ID: 1046164 Recent Infringement Timestamp: 7 Aug 2006 04:49:16 GMT Infringed Work: WinFax PRO 10.0 Infringing FileName: Winfax.Pro.10.02.German.FULL.exe Infringing FileSize: 63465545 Protocol: eDonkey Infringing URL: ed2k://|file|Winfax.Pro.10.02.German.FULL.exe|63465545|6DE3B98D2CEE03A061A8708DE2AB8381|/ Infringers IP Address: 85.210.165.183 Initial Infringement Timestamp: 7 Aug 2006 04:49:16 GMT -- Kind Regards PIPEX Abuse Response Team Could this be the end of P2P? I wonder if Pipex will really terminate my account if I don't promise to be a good boy. I was thinking about changing to another ISP anyway. I presume being kicked off Pipex wouldn't cause me a problem with signing up with another ISP, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hob Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Are they taking you to court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Okay possibly not relevant to your situation, but thought it worth posting up... I don't personally know anyone in the UK that’s been warned about p2p, but have some friends in Sweden that nearly faced prison over file sharing. Over there the ISP will pass on all your details to the company that make the complaint (it was MGM in my friends cases). MGM are then free to sue the individual for damages. They only just got away with it after paying an out of court settlement. I believe the laws here protect us much more and ISP cannot pass on our details unless the police are involved. Any threat the ISP issues will be just that, a threat and likely an empty one. I cannot see any ISP monitoring your line for specific activity so they're only likely to take action if they receive further complaint. BTW, what p2p software did you get pulled up on? Hope it wasn't a torrent... Edit - nevermind, just noticed edonkey.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hob Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Edit - nevermind, just noticed edonkey.... Are newsreaders any safer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tepster Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Get "The Hoff" to help!! did symantec see u sharing a *back up* copy then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 why dont you buy an ip blocker over the internet cost 7 pounds and gives them a false ip address so they cant track you my brother has that and it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tepster Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 why dont you buy an ip blocker over the internet cost 7 pounds and gives them a false ip address so they cant track you my brother has that and it works what site? might be a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 P2P sucks, why dont you all use a newsreader, and a relevant server to get all your stuff. They cant trace you this way. BY LAW! NEWZBIN.COM USENETSERVER.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 i tryed calling him but hes asleep il find out tommorow but i do know he paid by paypal for it and its only 7 pounds and he also showed to me that it works, very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hob Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 P2P sucks, why dont you all use a newsreader, and a relevant server to get all your stuff. They cant trace you this way. BY LAW! NEWZBIN.COM USENETSERVER.COM He he, I dont get how it works, where do the servers reside that provide the bandwith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 jazz you are the most random guy on this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 http://www.deajaceey.com its free ip address blocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 P2P sucks, why dont you all use a newsreader, and a relevant server to get all your stuff. They cant trace you this way. BY LAW! NEWZBIN.COM USENETSERVER.COM p2p is fine, you just need to know where to go. DC++ fast hubs are the best for general content, torrents or usenet for new stuff. The problem with newsreaders is that older things (well, even new things) get removed very quickly. Lets say I want computer game or movie from a couple of years ago - no chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 He he, I dont get how it works, where do the servers reside that provide the bandwith? Well mine is in America somewhere, but i get my Nzb files from Newzbin.com, here i insert them to a Newsreader(Newsleecher.com), from here they download. Easy. Just read the tutorials. They cant ask for id's as its breaking the law of some sort. Thats how you get round it so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 jazz you are the most random guy on this forum lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 p2p is fine, you just need to know where to go. DC++ fast hubs are the best for general content, torrents or usenet for new stuff. The problem with newsreaders is that older things (well, even new things) get removed very quickly. Lets say I want computer game or movie from a couple of years ago - no chance! Just request it dude. Someone will post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 As far as i know UK ISP's can only monitor what ports you are using. Simply change your ports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I got this email today: Could this be the end of P2P? I wonder if Pipex will really terminate my account if I don't promise to be a good boy. I was thinking about changing to another ISP anyway. I presume being kicked off Pipex wouldn't cause me a problem with signing up with another ISP, right? i use e-mule jake, however i would def reply to there email-tell them you confronted your little brother etc and he has appologised as he was the culprit,. i would take them seriously because on the evidence they have they could prosecute you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Can't you just stop using the Symantec stuff? As I take it that it is the software causing the problem? Just use AVG free edition and get rid of the Norton stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashpoint Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Friend has had 2 letters from NTL over p2p stuff each time he's been threatened and each time nothing has happened. Wouldn't worry to much about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Can't you just stop using the Symantec stuff? As I take it that it is the software causing the problem? Just use AVG free edition and get rid of the Norton stuff. Not quite as simple as that, it appears that they have caught him downloading, or uploading WinFax, a Symantec product, but JAke what possessed you to get/host the German version ? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Argh right, I got bored half way through the email they sent and just took the Symantec stuff to be just Norton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 When you do P2P sharing, you host any sort of crap you can get your hands on, to keep your share level high, so you can access the better hubs. (well its like that on DC++ anyway ) I'm sure Jake wouldn't be "using" Norton A/V but keeping their crap on the drive, is enough for them to get arsey about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I would never use P2P for illegal software distribution (or any other way of me hosting files). You're practically screaming "Look, I've got illegal software, come and get me!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Are they taking you to court?Not as far as I know. BTW, what p2p software did you get pulled up on? Hope it wasn't a torrent... Edit - nevermind, just noticed edonkey....It was eMule actually, same network as eDonkey though. did symantec see u sharing a *back up* copy then? I presume some anti-pirating outfit has set up thier own eMule server and is logging the IPs of folks that are sharing copyrighted software. why dont you buy an ip blocker over the internet cost Thanks but that isn't what I'm asking about. I'm not asking about how to avoid getting caught again, I'm wondering what the implications are now that I've already been caught. P2P sucks, why dont you all use a newsreader I do get most stuff from Usenet, I only use p2p for stuff I can't find on the binary gruops. reply to there email-tell them you confronted your little brother etc and he has appologised as he was the culprit Ah! My little brother. That naughty little tyke. Bless him, he's only 38. Can't you just stop using the Symantec stuff? I'm not using any Symantec software. It was just something that I had downloaded from eMule for a mate. The copy I downloaded was still in my shared folder, so other folks could DL it from me. I'm sure Jake wouldn't be "using" Norton A/V You got that right Geoff! There's no Norton/Symantec bloatware crap installed on my PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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