Do you belive in ghosts

[tbourner]

I thought they sussed dejavu?

If they have, a separate part of the brain then identifies the scene or object as being familiar.

 

In deja vu, this second process may occur by mistake, so that a feeling of familiarity is triggered by a novel object or scene.

It can't be a mistake because you know what's going to happen as it's happening, you can 'see the future' a few seconds ahead!!

I heard it was the way the 2 sides of the brain interact, that one (side A, can't remember which side does which) deals with things as they happen and the side B deals with things longer term, and this is the actual 'thought' that occurs. When the link between left and right is lost momentarily (happens more in people with epilepsy or who have taken drugs etc.), side A registers something, then side B registers it again, and with no link the overall brain says "I've seen that before", yeah; about half a second ago! .

[Green Peace]

There could be energy levels and dimensional shit going on that we can't possibly know about yet because we haven't found them and don't know how. Who knows for sure. I'm reading a scifi series of books at the moment that has a very interesting and plausible take on this.

 

Anyway, I'm skeptical up until I'm on my own with my imagination to keep me company and then I wind myself up. Although my garage presence is, I fear, still knocking around - although it's switched to poltergeist activity rather than just odd mechanical noises. I've been doing a lot of stuff on my own car recently and I had a tray of tools that were constantly in use. One of the tools was a beefy 5" extension bar for the big ratchet. It's bright and shiny. I used it, then took it off the ratchet and put it down. Needed it again in like 2 minutes, couldn't find it. A big shiny bar like this.

 

Me being me, and having a clear garage floor, I knew it was either in the tool tray, the toolbox, or accidently slung in the box of bits. I checked the tool tray 3 times. And I mean sectional checking as I knew I'd put it in there. Poke with finger, look around it, move finger a couple of inches, look around it, repeat until entire tool tray is searched. Checked toolbox drawers the same way, went back to tool tray, checked again. Emptied box of bits out, nope, not in there, turn around, it's in top of the tools in the tool tray in plain sight.

 

I said out loud "very funny but I've got work to do". Hmph.

 

-Ian

 

Not fair, I've never seen a ghost.....I only ever see 'real' things happen...am I weird????? lol

[Green Peace]

 

dejavu is a chemical imbalance in the brain. You will find that people who use recreational drugs suffer with this a lot more than those who don't, those who are giving up drugs (this includes pharma drugs too as in prescribed) also get horiffic dejavu. !

 

Im sure this is a repost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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[Supragal]

Not fair, I've never seen a ghost.....I only ever see 'real' things happen...am I weird????? lol

 

 

What Ian meant was "I got in a blokey strop, then calmed down and realised that the tool was indeed exactly where I left it all along"

[Supragal]

I thought they sussed dejavu?

 

It can't be a mistake because you know what's going to happen as it's happening, you can 'see the future' a few seconds ahead!!

I heard it was the way the 2 sides of the brain interact, that one (side A, can't remember which side does which) deals with things as they happen and the side B deals with things longer term, and this is the actual 'thought' that occurs. When the link between left and right is lost momentarily (happens more in people with epilepsy or who have taken drugs etc.), side A registers something, then side B registers it again, and with no link the overall brain says "I've seen that before", yeah; about half a second ago! .

 

I think what they are saying is that the brain tells you that it recognises something that it actually doesn't. This makes perfect sense to the deja vu I've experienced, but I can kinda see what you're saying too. perhaps thats why they say they are 'part way' to discovering what it is?

[Darren-K]

i have deja vu all the time,. for example,.

im about to say:

 

"there are no such things as ghosts or aliens visiting us from other planets"

 

and someone else,maybe 2 people will reply

"prove it"

[Supragal]

i have deja vu all the time,. for example,.

im about to say:

 

"there are no such things as ghosts or aliens visiting us from other planets"

 

and someone else,maybe 2 people will reply

"prove it"

 

 

I think that's all everyones saying isn't it?

 

Just stating opinions that can't be proved either way. Interesting though.

[Green Peace]

What Ian meant was "I got in a blokey strop, then calmed down and realised that the tool was indeed exactly where I left it all along"

 

PMSL...

 

you see I always blame it on someone else, when something goes missing here, its always someone elses fault, until I actually realise that we must have a Ghost. (i mean it cant possible be me thats moved it, im far too perfect to make a mistake like that!

 

We Also have Ghosts in our fridge, things keep going missing and the wrappers end up in the bin, but no-one is responsible ha ha, our Ghost also seems to have a liking for Champagne and fine wines, as they seem to go missing too on a regular basis.

 

Ghosts aye who needs em!

[lust2luv]

I only ever get deja vu of having deja vu previously. Seriously. Am I weird?

 

[Supragal]

I only ever get deja vu of having deja vu previously. Seriously. Am I weird?

 

 

 

Nope I used to get that too

[geoffvalenti]

I've heard that if you find a feather in your home it means a spirit wants to communicate with you.

 

What, even if the dog has just ripped up a pillow

[geoffvalenti]

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When the body dies the upper dimensional energy is released, and floats about aimlessly in it's own dimension, if another (living) human is closeby and happens to be in a similar mental state that the person was when they died the energy can 'link' and communicate in some way, the only way your own personal energy can 'show' your physical being what is being communicated is by putting an image of the deceased in front of you (some people are more susceptible to seeing them. Also explains why a ghost usually disappears soon after seeing it - because your own mental energy level changes {more towards the fear side} so the link is lost).

 

When things actually happen (poltergiest) it's the people that are there that cause it because of the link: The energy 'wants' something to happen (again dependant on their mental state when they died) and they 'tell' your energy this, your energy then communicates it to you by using you upper brain functions (which we can't access) to move objects by telekenesis.

 

Keep taking the tablets, Trev.

 

In fact, they look so good, can you send me some

[geoffvalenti]

But physically, scientifically, how does this happen? Someone dies, their brain stop and they rot. Thats all. There is not such thing as a spirit! Else you'd get ghost worms and cats and wasps.

 

Well now you come to mention it, There was a black dog that used to appear from nowhere and disappear suddenly where I used to take Shadow (the one in the avatar) on his morning walk

 

He also always get to a certain point along the path and freezes, looking into the distance, so much so that that particular spot, we've nicknamed "the long stare"

 

I don't know whether ghosts are real or not, but there's a hell of a lot of information out there just to dismiss completely.

 

Projections into 4th dimensions, I feel, is stretching my threshold of believeability beyond current limits

[Digsy]

We exist in the 4th dimension; we have control (apart from obeying certain laws of physics) over the 3 dimensions of X, Y and Z. The 4th dimension is time which we are dragged along with but cannot control. Any being that inhabits a higher dimension can control time (again except for certain laws that would be imposed similar to our physical laws), and can control any other of the dimensions below!

We have NO idea what the other dimensions might be, scientists can guess but that's all it is. Essentially it could be some form of energy dimension, something we know of like gravity, or something we can't even comprehend!!

So imagine that the 7th dimension (example) is energy of some kind, our feeble 4th dimensional brains can't work it out or recognise it, but there is some link between our physical bodies and these 7th D energy fields!! They connect at our birth and stay together till our death, the energy is not necessarily sentient (it may be) but the fact that our brains don’t ‘get it’ means we can’t communicate with them on a conscious level anyway!

 

You need to revise your theory a bit . The first 11 dimensions are already taken up by contemporary physics (10 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal). The ghosts and goulies can start moving in from number 12 onwards

[RedM]

The books are by Peter F Hamilton, er, it's a trilogy and I can't recall the name of them.

 

Night's Dawn trilogy?

[Rob]

Rosies' opinions kick ass. I totally agree.

Just as people are saying there are areas of science the human race does not yet understand, I suggest there are areas of the human brain we do not understand, and it's these areas that make us believe we saw a ghost.

 

Someone saw their deceased father sitting in his favorite chair, of course you did, I bet you've seen him sitting there nearly every day of your life. What's that noise as you walk through a dark graveyard? It's your mind showing you what you want to see.

 

I used to believe in UFO's and I saw them all the time, now I don't see them anymore because I don't believe they exist.

[Laura]

My Mum's a Spiritualist - it's not the freaky/hippy/gothy type stuff as most people think, just a branch of Christianity that believe in life beyond. (I'm not one btw). It's actually quite nice! Some mediums see spirits, some just hear them, but anyone can go to the church to talk to someone who has passed over. But it is up to the spirit to contact you. Funny how people are the same in death as in life; people who never called back and were crap at staying in touch are just the same in the spirit world! When I have managed to hear from family etc it's quite comforting (as long as they're not telling me off!)

 

So what if ghosts do exist? They can't hurt you. And if poltergeist activity exists, not that surprising really. I'd go for the video camera option, or if you haven't got access to one an old fashioned tape recorder for noise of things moving/voices etc would do?

[stupra]

Someone saw their deceased father sitting in his favorite chair, of course you did, I bet you've seen him sitting there nearly every day of your life.

 

That was my sis, an it freaked her out a bit, i've never seen him myself. I know where your coming from though, you see what you wanna see, or if your already scared, (the graveyard), maybe something you dont wanna see. That doesn't explain all the sightings by people who havn't lost anyone close, or are not scared at the time they see something. Not having seen one (dont know what is was when me an my mate were on stag, but we both saw it), I cant really say if I believe completely in ghosts or not, but because someone hasn't seen one, doesn't mean they dont exist in some form or another.

[CardiffSupra]

I would like to think there is life after death but sorry we are just objects, There is no such thing of ghosts its Impossible.

[MaveriK]

I believe in ghosts and have seen them.

 

Man Utd 4 Liverpool 0 Scoreboard end full of 'em!!

 

Saturday 05 April 2003

 

[Supragal]

Not only that but if a ghost can physically move items then they can physically write messages, which, lets face it, if they wanted to make contact they would do that- they are after all a dead "person" even better type on a keyboard? Unless all ghosts have club hands or something.

[Supragal]

Working in a scary place- of course scary things happen. We get all kinda of tales form our security guys at work about the manor hourse that dates back to 18something about doors opening/closing etc but I've been there nearly all night before and nothing... minds are incredibly powerful, all it takes is the tiniest thought and it's conjured up an elaborate fear based story.

 

Personally I hope there is life afer death and the thought of it scares me more than a ghost ever could!!!

[MR.B]

Not only that but if a ghost can physically move items then they can physically write messages, which, lets face it, if they wanted to make contact they would do that- they are after all a dead "person" even better type on a keyboard? Unless all ghosts have club hands or something.

That's what Ouija Board's are for.

[Charlotte]

Not only that but if a ghost can physically move items then they can physically write messages

 

Yeah like in Ghost.

[Alan999]

I see dead people......EVERYWHERE!

 

Interesting read this. I have to say i think religion causes way to much trouble so never believed in god etc so heaven& hell is made up but hey each to there own

 

UFO's, always thought it was aload of crap until one time when i was walking to school many years ago and saw 4 bright objects doing crazy things not possible by any planes ive ever seen, and they were seen by alot of people stopped dead in there tracks watching them and then as if by magic they just vanished.

 

Ghosts is always gonna get a good reaction it always has. Ive got so many stories of taps coming on and things being moved and stuff that other people have told me others but the only time ive ever seen something it was really weird! Was at a house fire that someone had died in ( im a fireman ) had a walk around seen where the body was etc when the body had been moved i went back in to the room and thought it was some one who had sorted getting the body moved sat on the arm of the chair that the body was on looking at were it had been so i stood just in the door way, they then stood up so i moved to the side of the door waiting for them to come out and no one did and i swear to this day i could hear the noise of them getting up and walking towards me. Got the piss taken out of me big time when i told the lads about it. In the end i put it down to lack of sleep and my imagination but to this day i can still see the blokes face clear as a bell!

 

Deja vu think everyone has had this at some point but do dreams count for this to?? Remember years ago when Mike Tyson bite that blokes ear off?? Well my cousin phoned me a week of so before the fight and said to me that fight is gonna end in controversy tyson will do something to him and he holds his head told me the round to very strange!