Max Headroom Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 It depends from which side you view this, left wing or right wing, as to who is the aggressor and who is the victim here in this conflict. This has been going on for centuries, muslims and gentiles. Islamic fundamentalist clerics want the whole world to be under Islamic law, much as the Catholics wanted with their Crusades and their missionary work in the 11th and 12th century. There seems to be as many different sects in the muslim faith as there are in the christian and jewish faith, and in all of them there are good and bad. The cradle of civilisation came from the Middle East yet the majority of the population there have been dragged down to abject poverty by fundamentalist religious zealots that mirror what the Catholic religion was in the 11th and 12th century. Why would a person blow themselves up in the belief that there was something better waiting for them in the next life. The ruling elite hold on to the vast wealth that comes from oil and leave their people in misery. I personally do not follow any religion I believe that when we die thats it, nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 i just wonder how anyone one would feel if a terroist walked into a cafe and blew himself up and killed friends /relatives .then again how would anyone one feel if a foriegn nation occupied your country .this conflict will never end they will hate each till the end of time .ive worked in the mid-east and 99% are ordinary people just trying to have a decent life and it probably the same in israel {if you buy an atlas in saudi ,israel is not on it just a blank space}. religion aint it wonderfull .they are both as guilty as each other . and galloway has only one agenda HIMSELF. (would you buy a car off him????) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 Is this what happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 interesting vid but then again anyone can edit flim/song/news to make something look like it isnt.i ask why would they do this just so they could go to war with iraq they would kill 3000+ of there own people.there are conspricy theorists everywhere . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 i just wonder how anyone one would feel if a terroist walked into a cafe and blew himself up and killed friends /relatives .then again how would anyone one feel if a foriegn nation occupied your country .this conflict will never end they will hate each till the end of time .ive worked in the mid-east and 99% are ordinary people just trying to have a decent life and it probably the same in israel {if you buy an atlas in saudi ,israel is not on it just a blank space}. religion aint it wonderfull .they are both as guilty as each other . and galloway has only one agenda HIMSELF. Thats the beauty of it all....take something that is simply about ARAB land, twist and turn it into a war between religions......use terms like islamic fundamentalists without even knowing jack shit about either the religion or the aim of the "terrorist" parties.... BTW: Hezbollah - actually means ARMY of ALLAH....they have been fighting the israelis for the past 20 yrs as Israel has been attacking Lebanon and has taken over part of their country. It aint about the Jews, its about the israelis. There isnt a balance of power (israel gets 1.5Bn /yr on weapons from the USA) in that area which is why you see these israelis terrorising their neighbours by killing innocent civilians. They are backed by the USA and unfortunately blind puppy dog blair (so we are being dragged into something that is very dangerous for us). You say war against the west, I dont see them fighting the french, germans, scandanavians, spanish, italians or anyone else....its been israel and the USA and rightly so....and unfortunately now the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 i agree with the occupation bit they should not be there they steamed in with tanks and the rest of the world did nothing .BUT this conflict between jews and muslims has been going on for centuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 If you are into the 9/11 stuff, I would suggest looking on google, there is a very compelling video somewhere regarding it... http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1951610169657809939&q=911 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726&q=911 Even if you aren't a conspirist... I would suggest watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Where does Allah dictate that they have to kill Israelis? Not in any version of the Koran that my friends read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 if you look closely you can see the explosions just before it fell .surely they wouldnt do this to justfy a war . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Where does Allah dictate that they have to kill Israelis? Not in any version of the Koran that my friends read? agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 jews and muslims has been going on for centuries. REALLY??? care to expand...chronologically please.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 A conspiracy theory attempts to explain the ultimate cause of an event (usually a political, social, or historical event) as a secret, and often deceptive, plot by a covert alliance of powerful people or organizations rather than as an overt activity or as natural occurrence. History has shown that crimes carried out by a group of people (a "conspiracy") are not uncommon. Reasearchers who are advocates of the conspiratorial view of history such as G. Edward Griffin claim that most major events in history are dominated by conspirators who manipulate major political happenings. The term "conspiracy theory" is usually used by mainstream scholars and in popular culture to identify a type of folklore similar to an urban legend, especially an explanatory narrative which is constructed with methodological flaws.[1] The term is also used pejoratively to dismiss allegedly misconceived, paranoid or outlandish rumors. Most people who have their theory or speculation labeled a "conspiracy theory" reject the term as prejudicial. Richard Hofstadter said that his use of the terminology is “pejorative”.[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 If I didn't know better I may just be inclined to think that you copied and pasted that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 REALLY??? care to expand...chronologically please.. sorry not jews, gentiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Where does Allah dictate that they have to kill Israelis? Not in any version of the Koran that my friends read? It would if your friend was a fundamentalist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 A conspiracy theory attempts to explain the ultimate cause of an event (usually a political, social, or historical event) as a secret, and often deceptive, plot by a covert alliance of powerful people or organizations rather than as an overt activity or as natural occurrence. History has shown that crimes carried out by a group of people (a "conspiracy") are not uncommon. Reasearchers who are advocates of the conspiratorial view of history such as G. Edward Griffin claim that most major events in history are dominated by conspirators who manipulate major political happenings. The term "conspiracy theory" is usually used by mainstream scholars and in popular culture to identify a type of folklore similar to an urban legend, especially an explanatory narrative which is constructed with methodological flaws.[1] The term is also used pejoratively to dismiss allegedly misconceived, paranoid or outlandish rumors. Most people who have their theory or speculation labeled a "conspiracy theory" reject the term as prejudicial. Richard Hofstadter said that his use of the terminology is “pejorative”.[ dude, if your gonna cut n paste - atleast reference the damn thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Just before some of you get really carried away talking about stuff you dont really have any ties to you should know Im half Lebanese. Not that Im easily offended or anything Im iranian....even though ive never been there, so im kinda tied into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Is this what happened immortal technique knows what hes talking about - got both his albums revolutionary vol 1 & 2.. every one of his tunes speak the truth. speaking of that reccomend everyone to listen to a tape called 'shadows' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Where does Allah dictate that they have to kill Israelis? Not in any version of the Koran that my friends read? It doesnt, it dictates you can kill those who occupy your land and kill your families and call it an accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 A conspiracy theory attempts to explain the ultimate cause of an event (usually a political, social, or historical event) as a secret, and often deceptive, plot by a covert alliance of powerful people or organizations rather than as an overt activity or as natural occurrence.[ http://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?p=158350 post no 22 The term is also used pejoratively to dismiss allegedly misconceived, paranoid or outlandish rumors. Most people who have their theory or speculation labeled a "conspiracy theory" reject the term as prejudicial. Richard Hofstadter said that his use of the terminology is “pejorative”.[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory Paul when you do post such information you should clearly state its source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 http://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?p=158350 post no 22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory Paul you should not pass 'thoughts' or 'opinions' as your own, and when you do post such information you should clearly state its source. totally agree! ... oh and. "repost" :http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=965703&postcount=66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 totally agree! ... oh and. "repost" :http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=965703&postcount=66 I love penguin chocolate bars... Whats the next meet your going to then...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 I love penguin chocolate bars... Whats the next meet your going to then...? you going to eat him then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 http://www.leehotti.com/images/store/big/pwned.jpg I knew you weren't that clever Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 [qimg]http://www.leehotti.com/images/store/big/pwned.jpg[/qimg] I knew you weren't that clever Paul Damn your quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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