Sean1933 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Just thinking back to when put a ltr of 0w30 in my it pretty much started slipping straight after!??? Coinsidence, anone care to comment? Also if this is the case an the oil is making it slip...do i need to replace the clutch? If so, all of it or just the clutch plate? and the flywheel? Just trying to save some money!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 ...Just trying to save some money!!! Can you afford to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Just thinking back to when put a ltr of 0w30 in my it pretty much started slipping straight after!??? Coinsidence, anone care to comment? Also if this is the case an the oil is making it slip...do i need to replace the clutch? If so, all of it or just the clutch plate? and the flywheel? Just trying to save some money!!! An oil change doesn't cost much so you could try that but I cant remember what the current favourite is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Unless you've got a rear crank seal leaking, I can't see how changing the oil would make the clutch slip. Either way, the box will need to come off sooner or later. I'd say it's coincidence. IMO your clutch is most likely in need of changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Unless you've got a rear crank seal leaking, I can't see how changing the oil would make the clutch slip. Either way, the box will need to come off sooner or later. I'd say it's coincidence. IMO your clutch is most likely in need of changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 PArt of what has confused me is that i have just fitted RLTC, and went out to test it was running ok. Being a child i thought i would try the Launch Contol even though the clutch is slipping. So i tried it, wheels spun a goodun on launch (dumped the clutch to fast) and the car just gripped and went, pretty much no clutch slip in 2nd or 3rd at WOT!!! But normally as soon as you get to full boost it was slipping, especially in 3rd and so on. What makes me think about oil leaking onto the clutch is because when i gave it some stick (launch control) maybe the oil was burnt of the clutch for a few seconds so it gripped? I just dont see how a slipping worn out clutch can suddenly grip so well? Any pros want to share their view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Is this the same clutch you were saying was 'fooked' over a month ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 The clutch will slip more when it's hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Is this the same clutch you were saying was 'fooked' over a month ago? You're on form tonight Jake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 yes jake same clutch. I have not been driving it though...had the waterpump to fix. So the clutch would slip more when it gets hotter...so howcome when i made it hotter (using the launch control) it gripped better??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Is this the same clutch you were saying was 'fooked' over a month ago? LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Is this the same clutch you were saying was 'fooked' over a month ago? nothing gets past Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 So the clutch would slip more when it gets hotter...so howcome when i made it hotter (using the launch control) it gripped better??? I'd guess it was at a normal temperature UNTIL you did a launch. Hence it gripped at first, then as it got hotter, it started slipping again... I cooked my clutch at Bovingdon last year. It's fine for day to day driving, but if I start doing some big launches it starts slipping very quickly again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 Well i have just been under the car and had the inspection cover off. I cant see any signs of all in there, but there was loads of black soot, everything was caked in it!!! Assume this is normal? The underside of the car was quite mucky as the below pics show. comments welcome... Oh and while im asking in the 3rd pic is the front of the box...if that hole supposed to be there??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Rear crank oil seal has gone. The thinner oil will have made it more apparent (Had the same issue after using mobil 1). That hole should be there, but there should be a plate covering it. Get the oil seal sorted asap, I didn't and the oil rottered the flywheel damper, ruined the clutch (overheated) and rotted the transimision mounting. Ended up costing a lot to get fixed (£1.2k) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 What makes you say that its gone homer, all the crap around that hole??? Take it the clutch + Flywheel will need to be changed aswell then. I have got a oil seal just incase it had gone for when i do the clutch so thats ok then. But the question is did the oil ruin the clutch or has it lived its life...cars only done 51,000. Question is do i attemp changing all this on my driveway??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 If its engine oil it will only have come from one place and thats the rear crank seal, its fairly common. Provided its not been left too long the flywheel damper should be okay, but you need to do a resistance test to make sure its not flexing too much. I would not recommend doing this on the drive unless you have some good tools, the prop and gearbox will have to come out, then the flywheel, both are extremely heavy so not best for the driveway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Garfy Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Evidence that using your mobile when driving is very bad????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 PArt of what has confused me is that i have just fitted RLTC, and went out to test it was running ok. Being a child i thought i would try the Launch Contol even though the clutch is slipping. So i tried it, wheels spun a goodun on launch (dumped the clutch to fast) and the car just gripped and went, pretty much no clutch slip in 2nd or 3rd at WOT!!! But normally as soon as you get to full boost it was slipping, especially in 3rd and so on. What makes me think about oil leaking onto the clutch is because when i gave it some stick (launch control) maybe the oil was burnt of the clutch for a few seconds so it gripped? I just dont see how a slipping worn out clutch can suddenly grip so well? Any pros want to share their view? YOu can set the launch control to give you no sheel spin. Its a bit of an art setting up the Laucn TBH. If your ever over this way drop in and ill sort it out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 YOu can set the launch control to give you no sheel spin. Its a bit of an art setting up the Laucn TBH. If your ever over this way drop in and ill sort it out for you. Getting no wheel spin is the least of my worries at the moment!!! But thanks for the offer...how would you set it up though, just alter what revs its set at? I am using a .dat file from your site. Not the winter one but the one after that, "allows a bit of slip". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Launch is NOT set up on any of the DAT files as you have to do it PER car dur to different suspension, tyres and overall grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 Oh ok thanks Martin. Out of interest where abouts should i have it set (WET+DRY)? Car has 17" wheels with Tein Coilovers, not damper Adjustable. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Errr, sorry if this sounds a bit obvious, but wet, on wet days, and dry, on dry days. If the slip is too restrictive or it's a really hot day, try a higher percentage like 10% upwards.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Errr, sorry if this sounds a bit obvious, but wet, on wet days, and dry, on dry days. If the slip is too restrictive or it's a really hot day, try a higher percentage like 10% upwards.. Fair enough, it is very obvious!!! Just assumed there was a ball park figure people use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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