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surely a white-board is racist - I may complain...maybe we'll see the invention of the grey-board?

 

PC is way OTT these days. Just one of the many things the government have f*cked up that makes my blood boil.

 

It wont be long before the words "black" and "white" are removed from the english language or punishable by death.

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I have never understood why calling a Pakistani a Paki is racist, I grew up with Paki's since childhood, even had a best mate who was a Paki! weird!

because pakistan is only a part of india,.

its like calling all englishman scotish ,.. or calling a scotsman english.

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I bumped into one of my neighbours (who happens to be Japanese) this evening and after seeing the thread thought I'd ask his opinion.

 

He said that many Japanese people would take offence at being referred to as 'Jap', very much so if done in their company. He compared it to calling a German a Kraut, a Frenchman a Frog or an Englishman a Limey. However the Japanese are much more formal in the way you address people so it’s not just taken as offensive but is also very disrespectful.

 

Not sure I got that all right but it was the gist of what he said...

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Not exactly on topic but I have to comment on the PC crap that is ruining this country.

 

You often find its NOT an ethnic group that has complained about a word / saying / flag ect. rather it is some do gooder in that has been given too much power preceives such may be offensive or racist and bans it.

 

When asked the ethnic groups think we are mad.

 

Prime example - Christmas or should that be winterfest?? !!!!!

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I have never understood why calling a Pakistani a Paki is racist, I grew up with Paki's since childhood, even had a best mate who was a Paki! weird!

 

its racist because over many years people have used the word paki in a racist context so theres no way to justify a white person or any other person callin someone a paki, as its always been racist. however with your own mates etc its different because they know you dont mean it in a racist way - but try saying that to someone you dont know down in bradford on a friday :D

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The squirrel and the grasshopper

REST OF THE WORLD VERSION:

 

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed. The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

 

THE END

 

 

THE BRITISH VERSION:

 

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

 

A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving. The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

 

The British press inform people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so while others have plenty. The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Council of GB demonstrate in front of the squirrel's house. The BBC, interrupting a cultural festival special from Notting Hill with breaking news, broadcasts a multi cultural choir singing "We Shall Overcome". Ken Livingstone rants in an interview with Trevor McDonald that the squirrel has gotten rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his "fair share" and increases the charge for squirrels to enter inner London .

 

In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The squirrel's taxes are reassessed. He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders for the work he was doing on his home and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work.

 

The grasshopper is provided with a council house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile. The squirrels food is seized and re distributed to the more needy members of society, in this case the grasshopper.

 

Without enough money to buy more food, to pay the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, the squirrel has to downsize and start building a new home. The local authority takes over his old home and utilises it as a temporary home for asylum seeking cats who had hijacked a plane to get to Britain as they had to share their country of origin with mice. On arrival the tried to blow up the airport because of Britain's apparent love of dogs. The cats had been arrested for the international offence of hijacking and attempt bombing but were immediately released because the police fed them pilchards instead of salmon whilst in custody. Initial moves to then return them to their own country were abandoned because it was feared they would face death by the mice. The cats devise and start a scam to obtain money from peoples credit cards.

 

A Panorama special shows the grasshopper finishing up the last of the squirrel's food, though Spring is still months away, while the council house he is in, crumbles around him because he hasn't bothered to maintain the house. He is shown to be taking drugs.

 

Inadequate government funding is blamed for the grasshoppers drug illness'. The cats seek recompense in the British courts for their treatment since arrival in UK .

 

The grasshopper gets arrested for stabbing an old dog during a burglary to get money for his drugs habit. He is imprisoned but released immediately because he has been in custody for a few weeks. He is placed in the care of the probation service to monitor and supervise him. Within a few weeks he has killed a guinea pig in a botched robbery. A commission of enquiry, that will eventually cost GBP10,000,000 and state the obvious, is set up.

 

Additional money is put into funding a drug rehabilitation scheme for grasshoppers and legal aid for lawyers representing asylum seekers is increased. The asylum seeking cats are praised by the government for enriching Britain's multicultural diversity and dogs are criticised by the government for failing to befriend the cats. The grasshopper dies of a drug overdose. The usual sections of the press blame it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity and his traumatic experience of prison. They call for the resignation of a minister.

 

The cats are paid a million pounds each because their rights were infringed when the government failed to inform them there were mice in the United Kingdom .

 

The squirrel, the dogs and the victims of the hijacking, the bombing, the burglaries and robberies have to pay an additional percentage on their credit cards to cover losses, their taxes are increased to pay for law and order and they are told that they will have to work beyond 65 because of a shortfall in government funds.

 

sorry slightly off topic!

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The squirrel and the grasshopper

REST OF THE WORLD VERSION:

 

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed. The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

 

THE END

 

 

THE BRITISH VERSION:

 

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

 

A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving. The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

 

The British press inform people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so while others have plenty. The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Council of GB demonstrate in front of the squirrel's house. The BBC, interrupting a cultural festival special from Notting Hill with breaking news, broadcasts a multi cultural choir singing "We Shall Overcome". Ken Livingstone rants in an interview with Trevor McDonald that the squirrel has gotten rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his "fair share" and increases the charge for squirrels to enter inner London .

 

In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The squirrel's taxes are reassessed. He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders for the work he was doing on his home and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work.

 

The grasshopper is provided with a council house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile. The squirrels food is seized and re distributed to the more needy members of society, in this case the grasshopper.

 

Without enough money to buy more food, to pay the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, the squirrel has to downsize and start building a new home. The local authority takes over his old home and utilises it as a temporary home for asylum seeking cats who had hijacked a plane to get to Britain as they had to share their country of origin with mice. On arrival the tried to blow up the airport because of Britain's apparent love of dogs. The cats had been arrested for the international offence of hijacking and attempt bombing but were immediately released because the police fed them pilchards instead of salmon whilst in custody. Initial moves to then return them to their own country were abandoned because it was feared they would face death by the mice. The cats devise and start a scam to obtain money from peoples credit cards.

 

A Panorama special shows the grasshopper finishing up the last of the squirrel's food, though Spring is still months away, while the council house he is in, crumbles around him because he hasn't bothered to maintain the house. He is shown to be taking drugs.

 

Inadequate government funding is blamed for the grasshoppers drug illness'. The cats seek recompense in the British courts for their treatment since arrival in UK .

 

The grasshopper gets arrested for stabbing an old dog during a burglary to get money for his drugs habit. He is imprisoned but released immediately because he has been in custody for a few weeks. He is placed in the care of the probation service to monitor and supervise him. Within a few weeks he has killed a guinea pig in a botched robbery. A commission of enquiry, that will eventually cost GBP10,000,000 and state the obvious, is set up.

 

Additional money is put into funding a drug rehabilitation scheme for grasshoppers and legal aid for lawyers representing asylum seekers is increased. The asylum seeking cats are praised by the government for enriching Britain's multicultural diversity and dogs are criticised by the government for failing to befriend the cats. The grasshopper dies of a drug overdose. The usual sections of the press blame it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity and his traumatic experience of prison. They call for the resignation of a minister.

 

The cats are paid a million pounds each because their rights were infringed when the government failed to inform them there were mice in the United Kingdom .

 

The squirrel, the dogs and the victims of the hijacking, the bombing, the burglaries and robberies have to pay an additional percentage on their credit cards to cover losses, their taxes are increased to pay for law and order and they are told that they will have to work beyond 65 because of a shortfall in government funds.

 

sorry slightly off topic!

 

 

what the F*CK is that?

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I have a J-spec wife. She says it's offensive, due to reference from war. It was first coined in a derogatory context, and has stuck that way since. That said, she is from the second post-war generation, so age does dictate how people take the term these days.

 

So please guys, try not to call a Japanese person Jap. :)

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I have a J-spec wife. She says it's offensive, due to reference from war. It was first coined in a derogatory context, and has stuck that way since. That said, she is from the second post-war generation, so age does dictate how people take the term these days.

 

So please guys, try not to call a Japanese person Jap. :)

 

Thats something I forgot to mention from the conversation with my neighbour, he said the same thing regarding the war. He's an older chap though (in his 60's at least but with Japanese people I find it difficult to guess age, I wouldn't be surprised if he was a lot older)

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I've been in Japan for 3 months now and I would never, ever use the word Jap.

 

Like Homer says, the Japanese are much more formal and take offence easily. I'm taking lessons and my teacher is teaching me "safe" Japanese which can be used in either causal or formal situations. They make certain allowances as you're a Westerner, but if I called my work colleague a Jap ...:no:

 

I read up a bit on the culture before I arrived to make sure I made a good impression. Just as well I did because I didn't know some things, like when you exchange business cards it's polite to accept it with both hands, and do *not* put it in your back pocket.

 

When someone makes a mistake at work, they have to apologise... I checked this new guys work and found a few mistakes, and he felt really awkward. Twice he bowed and "thanked me for my check, and instruction," and then apologised for the mistakes. It takes some getting used to....

 

Their country, their culture and their rules.

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