Robert Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 How many miles did the engine run? says 90k when he first bought it on the first post, so add another few thousand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 No paperwork at all and torque were reluctant to ever give me access to the previous owner or service garage preferring to act as intermediary... Thats interesting - I had the same treatment from torque when I bought mine. No service history, no auction sheet etc. Mine was a goodun though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 I've seen some pretty neglected and abused engines in my time. ...but this one wins by a margin. What did they run it on FFS, lard? I'd be tempted to forgo this engine and use it only for spare parts. I wouldn't trust a single bearing out of that mess. Cronenberg would be proud to use it in his films. gotta agree with John hear, i change the oil every 3000 miles and when i took the head off at 90k miles it had slight carbon build up, i'me afraid your looking at a car that has probably never had its oil changed from the day it left the factory, it kinda makes you weep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Testiment to how strong the 2JZ-GTE is, if it can withstand the amount of non maintainance this example so obviously has undergone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvteye Posted July 30, 2006 Author Share Posted July 30, 2006 I'd be tempted to forgo this engine and use it only for spare parts. I wouldn't trust a single bearing out of that mess. Thanks for the advice (and all the commiserations etc.) but the bank'll never take it Cap'n. The engine is now totally stripped so I think some bearings will be replaced... Not being mechanically knowledgeable there doesn't seem much left which isn't going to get changed on the rebuild anyway. What spare parts could I use??? The best thing is to wait for Martin to answer this one. I'm wholly reliant on him for advice as he will be the one issuing a 1 yr warranty. On a seperate note I'm surprised there hasn't been any advice on preparing the rebuilt engine for a future 'single' conversion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psymon Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Torque Imports use a garage in Plymouth to get most of there cars done. Think its Sun garage in Tamerton Foliet. maybe you could give em a bell and enquire if it was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 I imagine the turbo's will be in much the same state as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Bargepole comes to mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 would you not be better of buying a second hand engine?.... that looks f**ked:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 ...hence the bargepole. There are some bearings that you can't realistically change. Like the cams for example. Would you trust those surfaces? lol... I'd get another engine, this one will be a black hole for cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Kopite has a decent used engine for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 I'm sure the engine can be checked and measured and things replaced as required. after all, what is in an engine that can't be replaced, so long as the block and head are essentially ok I would just be paranoid that the oilways might be blocked up, so a good thorough check of those would be essential I'm sure Martain knows what he is doing and it will be sorted in no time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvteye Posted July 30, 2006 Author Share Posted July 30, 2006 I'm sure Martain knows what he is doing and it will be sorted in no time Thanks Chilli, it's scary enough as it is and I really want to stay with the VVTI engine. If I imported one from USA there would be no guarantees so I am expecting everything thats knackered to be replaced and trust Martin implicity. It's not in his interest to leave anything risky not just from a warranty point of view but because he is a professional. That said I do value everyones point and their experience. If I had a bigger wallet I would go for it but it is about balancing up the risks with the costs. I have to be prepared to go single at a later stage (as this must have had an effect on the tubbies) but it doesn't have to be a big one and I am making choices now which will ensure that the engine is ready for this in the future but within the confines of my wallet, not my desires. I'd love to have a beer with Johna sometime but I'd hate to hear him say "told you so". Cheer guys... even the missus is impressed with the way you guys have supported me on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Thats unbelievable, never thought I'd see an engine still running in that state! Would it be more economical to get a 2nd hand bottom end, replace the rod bolts, then rebuild the head? Though I'm no expert, you may well consider replacing those cams, can't beleive they'd be in very good condition now. Best of luck and hope you can keep costs to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Blimey! Only time I've ever seen something that bad was a mate's old CVH Escort - run on cheap mineral / semi-synth, when I came to change his tappets for him I had to dig the 'tar' out with a tea-spoon! Good luck with the costs mate, tbh it would be an absolute nightmare for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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heckler Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 At least that engine still had oil in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Last time I saw that sort of mess was in a 1960s Ford running on 1960s oil. What sort of oil was that engine running on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Went and peered in mine with a torch. Looks fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 I'm off to change my oil!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 My lord, thats not good. BTW I know of a company with a VVTI engine for a grand if your strapped for cash. Means you can get the turbo's done at the same time Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 My lord, thats not good. BTW I know of a company with a VVTI engine for a grand if your strapped for cash. Means you can get the turbo's done at the same time Gaz. good deal:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Bloody hell i think i would have cryed. Cant believe it was still running either! Anyway quick question would it be recomend running them on fully synth oil? & ill make sure i have a good look when i go to have a drive of the one im thinking of buyin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvteye Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 BTW I know of a company with a VVTI engine for a grand if your strapped for cash. Means you can get the turbo's done at the same time Gaz. Thanks for this Gaz, but the work is in progress. The engine is completely stripped which probably accounts for a 3rd of the labour costs and the bottom block has come back successfully honed which means the pistons can stay (new rings of course). I know all the parts that will be replaced (the bearings are already in the bin) and am actually looking forward to having a completely rebuilt engine now. I am confident that Martin will ensure the engine is immaculate before it goes back in and he may even answer some of the points raised in this thread as he has with me. He is an absolute top bloke with this explaining all the options at every stage and ensuring I was aware of the costs of these options and the cheaper alternatives etc. It does leave the turbos and time will tell regarding their longevity but I don't see the risks are any different from getting a second hand set tbh. As I said before though, thanks for all the support. I've told the missus that the budget for the new drive has now gone but we will be able to cover it up with the Supe on it's return. Cheers guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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