SkyJawa Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Would having a wider track on the MKIV result in better grip/handling or worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 In warm weather yes, coz tyres will get too operating tempertures, so will grip well. In wet will be less pressure on tyre area as it will be bigger contact area,so little water yes, but more water probably not unless has good tread pattern on it as has too move more water out of the way Of course depends on amount of water, make of tyre, tread and loads of other factors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Track = distance between wheels as far as I'm aware. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 K, these are stock tyre sizes though, so no worse in size of contact area between rubber and ground to a normal supe? Basically, I've stock size aftermarket wheels fitted. The front is a 32mm offset and the rear is 37mm. Now, what this has basically done (without the use of spacers) is to move the wheel further outwards to be more flush with the arch both front and back. And I wanted to know if this should give me a bit better handling/grip or a bit worse....... I've got RLTC, but sometimes I still think it should have more cornering grip before the TC has to cut in. I'm having my aligment done on Tues as I reckon its probably that which is well off, but was interested to see what effects a wider track would give too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 Originally posted by Ian C Track = distance between wheels as far as I'm aware. -Ian Ian - yep thats what I mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam W Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I'm no expert but from a purely common sense view it should reduce the forces trying to lift the outside wheel in a corner or something? But as with all suspension things, unless the geometry is set up to take advantage of it any radical changes will probably make things worse rather than better The main thing is keeping the contact area of the tyre parallel with the road surface in turns - 90% of the time lowering, spacers etc totally screw this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 So basically, since I'm having the alignment done on Tues, and the car is on standard size rubber and standard suspension, it should be pretty cool Reckon the alignment must be a bit off at the mo, guess Tues will tell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Don't mess about with wheel offsets etc just for cosmetic reasons, you'll wreck the handling, your tyres and everything else - Just don't do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Originally posted by John Packham Don't mess about with wheel offsets etc just for cosmetic reasons, you'll wreck the handling, your tyres and everything else - Just don't do it! Agreed absolutely! Whilst one can get away with mild offset cganges on the rear, without too dire a consequence, 8uggering around at the front end can cause serious horrible handling problems. Unless you REALLY understand what you are doing, and not many people do, to be honest, leave wheel offsets absolutely stock. Out of every 20 aftermarket wheel "jobs" I see maybe 4 are ok 'ish, and 1 is fine... The rest vary from bad to bloody dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Originally posted by Chris Wilson The rest vary from bad to bloody dangerous. That'll be me then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 Came over like that, not my doing Certainly can't afford a new set Oh well, have to hope the RLTC and getting the alignment done makes it not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 Originally posted by Chris Wilson The rest vary from bad to bloody dangerous. What about the figs/offsets I posted Chris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 and re Neils' offsets, if you had a 45mm offset front wheel that was 9" wide (a common choice and near to standard offset) it would pretty much fill the arch the same as his 32mm and 8" rim, but would have the extra inch on the inside. ie the distance from outer tyre edges (track?) is the same for both but the inner tyre edges distances (track?) would be different. This makes a difference? or would the 45mm 9" be just as bad as 32mm and 8"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Originally posted by HISUPE What about the figs/offsets I posted Chris? 50mm is stock offset. You should add equal width to the rim either side of its mounting face. But then you open a totally different can of worms, in so far as the bushing hysterisis of the stock car is calculated to control stock rim and tyre loadings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted February 13, 2004 Author Share Posted February 13, 2004 Originally posted by Chris Wilson 50mm is stock offset. You should add equal width to the rim either side of its mounting face. But then you open a totally different can of worms, in so far as the bushing hysterisis of the stock car is calculated to control stock rim and tyre loadings. Cheers for the answer Chris, so in lamens terms its a bit pants? At least they clear the UK Spec callipers! Guess I need to put some 18s on the shopping list then (bugger, as the Do-Luck ones are the only ones I'd put on - 2.5k feck!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Keep to 17's, and as light a rim and tyre as poss, the aerotops are not forgiving of massive unsprung weight, due to their lack if rigidity. The ones I have driven with big heavy rims on have shown up the structures inherent weakness rather badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 So 20's would be out of the question Chris:devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted February 13, 2004 Author Share Posted February 13, 2004 Originally posted by Chris Wilson Keep to 17's, and as light a rim and tyre as poss, the aerotops are not forgiving of massive unsprung weight, due to their lack if rigidity. The ones I have driven with big heavy rims on have shown up the structures inherent weakness rather badly. Ok - cheers for the advice Chris (I guess a forged 18 that carries the same weight as a 17 might be ok? Saying that though, I think I'd rather keep to much cheaper tyres in 17 variety!!!!) Just wondered how all these things weighed up (excuse the pun!) really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Originally posted by Terminator So 20's would be out of the question Chris:devil: No doubt some *anker is weighing up getting Cayenne 22 inch rims on some road car, somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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