dude Posted February 13, 2004 Author Share Posted February 13, 2004 AFAIK there is no allternative to the type IV and you can only get it from Toyota (i bought a case of it) but in an emergency i would use Dexron II . Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 13, 2004 Author Share Posted February 13, 2004 Originally posted by Jason Going back to the subject of auto fluid, I have been sold some Valvoline type D ATF by Fensport, is this the same stuff as the typeIV? Fensport are supposed to know their stuff , give em a ring and tell em the reasons you are worried and let us know what they say !! Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I did show my concern when I bought it, but they said that they use the equivalent oil in all their own manual gearboxes in all their cars. They said that it gives a really smooth gearchange, but I'm not sure if they have ever used it in a Supra auto gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 If it helps, the instructions on the bottle say "for use in all transmissions where a DEXRON IID fluid is specified". Does that shed any more light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 13, 2004 Author Share Posted February 13, 2004 Originally posted by Jason I did show my concern when I bought it, but they said that they use the equivalent oil in all their own manual gearboxes in all their cars. They said that it gives a really smooth gearchange, but I'm not sure if they have ever used it in a Supra auto gearbox. That sounds a bit worrying !!!! Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 13, 2004 Author Share Posted February 13, 2004 Originally posted by Jason If it helps, the instructions on the bottle say "for use in all transmissions where a DEXRON IID fluid is specified". Does that shed any more light? That sounds less worrying I would phone them and explain that this is a VERY expensive transmission to trash and see if they still tell you to put it in then get it in writing . dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kean Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Just stick with the Type TIV from toyota. It's only $~30 for a box of 12, 1 quart bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpher Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 My Supras autobox has always had Castrol SAF-XJ according to some papers one of the the previous owners sent along...and i CERTAINLY wont recomend using that...as i had the 'NOT-Toyota-TypeIV-oil-sound' ematating from the box...until i switched to Type IV....the sound is now gone and has been for well over 6 months now... My manual (that came from a late model UK-spec) says to use ATF Dextron II... @lpher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 14, 2004 Author Share Posted February 14, 2004 Originally posted by Kean Just stick with the Type TIV from toyota. It's only $~30 for a box of 12, 1 quart bottles. Kean we get stung for £45 for a gallon !!!! Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 You can only use T-IV in your boxes (or its equivalent, which there are some available). Your boxes were designed for T-II (apart from the n/a which i belive uses dexII), yet T-II was superceeded by T-IV, its basically the same stuff but with a different name... the only difference being that the new T-IV (brought out in may last year) is compatible with both dexII and t-II boxes and fluids, however that doesnt apply to the mkiv box as it uses t-II anyway. SO !! Dont bung anything else in, use T-IV... you'll all be glad tohear they've recently revised it yet again and the price has gone up to £63 for four litres , meaning that for a complete flush youre looking at £250 Like i say, there are alternatives to T-IV which match or exceed its properties.. one i think made by amsoil? not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by adi-mkiii Like i say, there are alternatives to T-IV which match or exceed its properties.. one i think made by amsoil? not sure. Just bringing this one back to life - did anyone ever discover what these alternatives are? I've got a call logged with Shell to see what lubricants they have to offer for the MKIV but I'm still waiting for them. At the moment I'm getting a bit of a smell from the car and if I have it in manu mode and give it some stick the main warning light appears - I'm thinking that Toyota didn't do the flush and replace I requested when the car was serviced last August and now the car needs some TLC Hopefully I haven't damaged anything in the meantime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveL Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Hi guy's, not posted before but been an avid 'watcher' - thought I'd join in after reading the auto fluid discussions and suffering from the ticky noises .... Phoned my local Lexus dealer in Cambridge, they stated the type IV fluid is no longer under part number 08886-81015, but have the same stuff in 5L tubs for approx £45. Anyone else found this.... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted May 12, 2004 Author Share Posted May 12, 2004 Steve , correct now comes in 5 litre containers Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Originally posted by adi-mkiii Like i say, there are alternatives to T-IV which match or exceed its properties.. one i think made by amsoil? not sure. i had some auto box issues, where the box was overfilled by some local "experts" so i decided to bite the bullet and take it to an auto box specialist some miles away (preston), and i'me glad i did, these guys did auto box servicing and repairs and that was it not even manual boxs, i was worried about the type 4 fluid but the guy there knew exactly what i was talking about and said he could get it but it was expensive, or put an equivalent in that was about half the price, in his words there was no big mystery about the fluid or the box, toyota have'nt reinvented the auto box and its just standard practice that car manufactures want you to buy their stuff as opposed to blogs brand, my advice if in doubt take it to a reputable specialist, who are pulling the things apart on a daily basis as they know what they are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 :baa: Hmmm very interesting. I am sure Chris Wilson has a contact who is considerto be a top expert on auto boxes and his advice was to stick with T- IV. AFAIR As a new box or a rebuild is going to cost mega bucks, saving £20 a change by using an alterbnative that MIGHT be OK is not worth it IMHO. I can't see what all the fuss is about. Anyone want any £3 plugs for a MKIV:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveL Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Thanks Dude, Good point Paul - I'll try and find someone near me who's a box specialist ( If anyone knows someone near Cambridge I'd be interested... ) Terminator, Don't care so much about cost - it's wasting time and effort when someone could just be saying the right thing to get a sale..... How many plugs you got for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Just out of curiosity, what quantities of the type IV do you need to fill from dry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens747 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 It seems by looking at most of the threads on the BB about fluids. I think I will try and get my stuff from Toyota. Would anyone agree or disagree with that statement? ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Gearbox fluid - whether it's an auto or manual - its safest to stick with Toyota. But the dealers won't always know which of thier oil range you should have so be specific. arm yourself with a part no. and you can't go too wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens747 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Thank mate you made a good valid point there. Will certainly go armed with that info. Cheers Alex .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Anyone used the Motul Gear 300 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hornet Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I did quite a bit of research regarding the ATF and had lengthy discussions with Simon at Opie oils and Millers oil. They said if they could find out what was in the Type IV they could recommend an alternative but both companies have tried for months and months to no avail as Toyota wont give out it's spec's. After all the research I did it, I was told by the other companies to stick with the Type IV until they come up with some facts which they have not to date. I went to my Toyota dealer who knew nothing about Type IV or Supra's to that matter so as usual I just rang Envy performance and they had the stuff in stock Cheap too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 The MKIV auto box uses TYPEIV ATF. Just reactivating this old thread, so new members see it. TYPEIV ATF is only available from Lexus dealerships AFAIK. There are a lot of garages out there who will stick DextronIII in the MKIV box including some Toyota dealerships. You have been warned. Putting anything else in your auto box could be very expensive. And an even older thread http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=6458&highlight=TypeIV+ATF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 The MKIV auto box uses TYPEIV ATF. Just reactivating this old thread, so new members see it. TYPEIV ATF is only available from Lexus dealerships AFAIK. There are a lot of garages out there who will stick DextronIII in the MKIV box including some Toyota dealerships. You have been warned. Putting anything else in your auto box could be very expensive. And an even older thread http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=6458&highlight=TypeIV+ATFjust to reiterate what termy said the ONLY fluid for the auto box is genuine Mr Toyota type 4, any toyota dealer will get it for you as long as you give em the part number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 TYPEIV ATF is only available from Lexus dealerships AFAIK. I (well, my Mrs) got 5 Litres of Type IV from my local Toyota dealer. Took 24 hours to get it in. It was about £40 Details in attached pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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