Steve W2 Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Okay guys, I need your pearls of wisdom again;) I have definetly lost my locking wheel nut socket and can't get the wheels off my car:confused: This must have happened to other people before, I'm just wondering how you sorted it out? I don't want to pay an engineering company to drill and reverse tap the wheel nuts as it will cost me a lot of money and cause me even more problems. Also, getting a mold and another socket made woudlnt be cheap either:confused: HELP ME!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 You aint gonna get em off without breaking something - either the nut or the wheel Which brand are they? Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 The wheels are Volk racing the nuts are ????? from Japan:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_TC Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 You can buy a locking wheel nut removal tool, its a one use and chuck away tool, around £9 I believe, or most people hammer on a smaller size socket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 I was thinking about trying to weld some metal to the end and using it to get them off!! Excellent do you know where these toolsa are sold? Its been so long since I've looked at waht type they are I cant remember if I would be able to hammer a smaller socket over them. Will have to check. Thanks for all your responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 I will get them off with no wheel or stud damage. I do this pretty regularly. I also get to see other peoples efforts, and it makes me cringe... You will need new locking nuts to replace the old ones with afterwards. I don't know how practical it is for you to get the car to me though, distance wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 If it saves my wheels Chris its practical enough! Out of interst how do you do it, or is it a special secret. Do you spark electrode them out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Originally posted by Steve W2 If it saves my wheels Chris its practical enough! Out of interst how do you do it, or is it a special secret. Do you spark electrode them out? No, I sacrifice an impact socket and mill it accordingly. PITA, but it works and does no damage. I only mill it enough to grip, making a perfect tool would take hours and hours, so you need a new set of matching nuts and tool afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 Originally posted by Chris Wilson No, I sacrifice an impact socket and mill it accordingly. PITA, but it works and does no damage. I only mill it enough to grip, making a perfect tool would take hours and hours, so you need a new set of matching nuts and tool afterwards. Its probably about 150 miles so about 3.5 hours in my car and a tank of fuel. How much would you charge oh kind sir? Anyone know how much suitable locking wheel nuts and corresponding tools are? Feck, just realised, do I need specifice locking wheel nuts for a J-spec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keron Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 the best way is to hammer a socket over the nut. this way is does not damage the alloy, and works for me everytime. funny enough i had to take some out of a skyline the other day!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Originally posted by Steve W2 Its probably about 150 miles so about 3.5 hours in my car and a tank of fuel. Fook me steve, 150 miles, and it takes you 3.5 hours, Jesus man get it above 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 my mrs lost her locking wheel nuts for her celica and phoned toyota and they said about £50 to remove them. i managed in the end though by hitting smaller size socket over them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulfurn Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 I had the same happen to me on my old car. Tried the socket way to no avail (probably my poor technique lol), so had to get a garage to "drill" it out instead. Charged 20 quid IIRC.... PITA though. Its made me a little more vigilant about where the locking wheel nut is kept nowadays though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 Originally posted by Ashley Willis Fook me steve, 150 miles, and it takes you 3.5 hours, Jesus man get it above 60. You've got to be joking, anything over 60 is dangerous:D I just went on the stupid AA route planner doobrey! They base it on the speed limits of the roads. Although I go faster on the motorways when I can I have found the times to be there, or there abouts when you take into account the traffic. I also have a horrible feeling that it actually a socket that inserts into the nut in a Torx like fashion ( you know the star shaped allen keys). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_TC Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Originally posted by Ashley Willis Fook me steve, 150 miles, and it takes you 3.5 hours, Jesus man get it above 60. Quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 When you beat a socket over the nut you are also beating hell out of the inner wheel bearing, and brinnelling the tracks. Good chance it will go rough and noisy some time soon. SteveW2: Can you e-mail me a digi photo of a nut as it sits in the wheel? i can have a better understanding of what i am up against, as you want a price. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmax Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Dude.. have I got some good news for ya..!! I've just bought a locking wheel nut removal tool for Volk Wheel nuts.. the one I have is a heptagon.. I don't know if thats the same..? The company I bought it from is called Prospec Motorsport Ltd.and they are based in london. The man to speak to id Shin Inoue and his email is. [email protected] hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Thanks for all your help guys, i will see what I can sort out. My local garage said they could probably do it but I'm concerned that they are going to damage the wheel bearings as CW suggested. I will try getting hold of a tool from this company and go from there. Again thanks for all your help:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyp Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 don't brother with all that turd.. wouldn't trust a garage to do it..get a locking nut removal kit from europarts, costs like £8 and you can do it yaself... if ya interested I'll dig the model number / url out for ya later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Silly question, but if these things are so easy/cheap to source, what's the point in having locking wheelnuts in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyp Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 there isn't hehe if the crims want them they'll have them... alarms are more functional imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I always put 2 sets on so it will take the thief twice as long to get them all off by which time he may be seen and the alarm may draw lots of attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Better yet, 5 different sets! (or 20 if you're really paranoid and can find that many different) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by lust2luv Better yet, 5 different sets! (or 20 if you're really paranoid and can find that many different) A car with one set of locking nuts is a PITA, 2 sets get me pissy, 20 would double your bill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by lust2luv Better yet, 5 different sets! (or 20 if you're really paranoid and can find that many different) 20..... u be there all day trying to find the right key for the right nut!!! Exhaust change=30mins Cam belt change=2 1/2 hours 20 locking wheel nuts taken off= 4 hours!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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