spackrackman Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 If I am doing some high speed twisties etc, its nice to have the extra control of 2nd and 3rd in manual mode... such as slowing down with engine breaking etc... so what do people do to stop the back end locking up when dropping into second, I came to a tight corner today, dumped it into second and ended up going around it with the backend out sideways at 70. Should I hit the throttle for a second once i have moved it into second or just keep it floored while changing down and then let off.. this is where i miss the clutch and being able to slowly let the clutch bite and give the engine a chance to catch up with the revs for engine breaking and not skipping the back out. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkTheBoy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'd be interested to see what other people do too, I tend to 'blip' the throttle to stop the rear from locking up... trouble with that is that you kinda have to accelerate toward to corner! I miss the clutch too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Have you tried using the brakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackrackman Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 Have you tried using the brakes? engine braking and brakes.... are the best for killing the speed quickly. I am not dissing the auto.. just interested on how other people drive them hard.. On another note.. is it okay to coast an auto in N and how bad is it to rev the engine slightly and put it into drive.. or if i want to start off quickly is it exceptable to keep the brakes on, hit the accelerator, let the auto box build up the pressure and then release? are these all no no's? jonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 is it okay to coast an auto in N and how bad is it to rev the engine slightly and put it into drive.. or if i want to start off quickly is it exceptable to keep the brakes on, hit the accelerator, let the auto box build up the pressure and then release? i wouldn't coast in N to be honest but i've recently been told that it won't harm it (i still wouldn't do it though). i wouldn't rev the engine before putting it into drive either. keeping your foot on the brake, accelerating then letting the brakes go is used quite often to get a decent launch but this will reduce the life of your box / torque convertor iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I coast in N if I'm *really* low on fuel and in the middle of nowhere... never harmed... if I need to do twisties or overtake fast I find knocking it into 2nd (without the Manu thing) works well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_a Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 This is the place where i am missing the tiptronic mode in the FTO. all the joy and benefit of gearchanges without the clutch action. Still getting used to the Supra but i'm planning on just leaving it in second and drinking the local Esso dry. Did a hard launch at a 04plate 325i earlier that wanted to speed into a bus lane thencut me up. Absolutely monstered it! m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 ... so what do people do to stop the back end locking up when dropping into second... I've never experienced the back end locking up when I've dropped it into 2nd when in manual mode Did it at 80 the other day, no probs. I thoughte the box made sure the revs were suitable before it changed anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 60 is the max speed that I will change down on to 2nd, any faster and you do have the tail breaking away in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I love the manual mode but you do have to be careful with it IMO, the engine braking is just too severe to simply change down and chuck it into a corner. The difference between 2nd and 3rd is so high that you'd have to slow down to a snail's pace to make it smooth, which defeats the point of using it in the first place! Still, it's nice when you get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I've never experienced the back end locking up when I've dropped it into 2nd when in manual mode Did it at 80 the other day, no probs. I thoughte the box made sure the revs were suitable before it changed anyway? At 80?! what kind of revs did that come in at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Quite a few!!. It was a mistake, I had it in MANU and my hand on the lever and accidentally pulled it back. Mind you, I'm sure that the box will actually do an (indicated on speedo) 90 in 2nd (not that I've ever seen 90...) Usually knock OD off then drop back to 2nd. Not heard of the back breaking away before. I think mine's got LSD (checked the VIN code), would that make a difference ? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Quite a few!!. It was a mistake, I had it in MANU and my hand on the lever and accidentally pulled it back. Mind you, I'm sure that the box will actually do an (indicated on speedo) 90 in 2nd (not that I've ever seen 90...) Usually knock OD off then drop back to 2nd. Not heard of the back breaking away before. I think mine's got LSD (checked the VIN code), would that make a difference ? J wouldnt make any difference mate...I always thought the ECU wouldn't allow you to change down at such high revs, and until the revs drops enough it would only change down then?.....surely that would be off the limiter at that speed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Don't know mate, not gonna test either I know AtillaUK used to track his Auto and I'm sure he posted that he knocked it to 2nd at 80 approaching corners and the box just changes down when it's safe to do so. It's the locking up thing I was interested in. Just not experienced this - proabably not driving hard enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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