michael Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Potentially more exciting than the World Cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 don't you mean US and Israel vs Lebanon ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Davey Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 don't you mean US and Israel vs Lebanon ??? Potentially no contest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Give em their dues though - they know how to look after their troops - 1 soldier gets snatched and they bring out the tanks, artillery etc. Must really make you feel wanted and valued as a soldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 My dad is currently on a two year contract in Israel. Worries me slightly. Especially when he sends me an email saying 'Everything is fine here, we only hear bombs very occasionally at night time. Hang on....I can hear something...it's a....' Yeah he's a funny guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 My old man was posted out there in the 70's spose he was lucky that nothing kicked off (well thats what he tells me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00b Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Israel will win they have semi transparent soilders lol n00b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00b Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 ok this isnt funny now... its pushing the price of oil right up... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5176158.stm ... looks like its going to hit us in the pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Give em their dues though - they know how to look after their troops - 1 soldier gets snatched and they bring out the tanks, artillery etc. Must really make you feel wanted and valued as a soldier you mean any excuse to pull out the tanks and wipe out innocent men, women and children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 you mean any excuse to pull out the tanks and wipe out innocent men, women and children. Look behind the politics and see it from a grunts point of view - you're in the shit and instead of abandoning you (as most govts would) your comrades pull out all the stops to get you back! The Israelies DO know how to look after their troops. By comparison, look what we did for our pilots who got downes in Iraq - sweet F A !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 obv if your lifes on the line - your going to want anything done to have you saved - the point i was trying to make was the excessive use of weapons against civilians to make a stand for "freedom" for one soldier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 Glad I'm not on holiday in Cyprus right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supradan Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 obv if your lifes on the line - your going to want anything done to have you saved - the point i was trying to make was the excessive use of weapons against civilians to make a stand for "freedom" for one soldier. Bet you would think differently if you were that ONE soldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 impervious - read what i wrote AT THE START. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supradan Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 i did but you contradicted it with the second statement!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I entirely get what you're saying Penguine, but you also need to remember that in some situations it is very difficult to distinguish beteen 'innocent civilians' and 'non-uniformed combatants' - particularly when you are working against an enemy that hides within the local populace and uses them as cover (willing or otherwise). Not saying that I condone Israels reactions - just that I admire their balls for saying 'bugger public opinion etc.' and doing what they feel needs to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Look behind the politics and see it from a grunts point of view - you're in the shit and instead of abandoning you (as most govts would) your comrades pull out all the stops to get you back! The Israelies DO know how to look after their troops. By comparison, look what we did for our pilots who got downes in Iraq - sweet F A !! so much so that they even support those that murder innocent civillians.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 i did but you contradicted it with the second statement!! how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I entirely get what you're saying Penguine, but you also need to remember that in some situations it is very difficult to distinguish beteen 'innocent civilians' and 'non-uniformed combatants' - particularly when you are working against an enemy that hides within the local populace and uses them as cover (willing or otherwise). Not saying that I condone Israels reactions - just that I admire their balls for saying 'bugger public opinion etc.' and doing what they feel needs to be done. would indiscriminate bombing of Northern Ireland have been acceptable while there were terrorists there? When you start killing more civilians than terrorists its never a good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Has it really got anything to do with the soldier, or is it just another excuse to level an opponent? I'd be suprised if Isreal actually gave two shits about the soldier himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 If it were one of my comrades then yes - I would! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 What about the poor sod who lost most of his family members in one of the bombings, try explaining to him its because his country has 2 of Israils soldiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 If it were one of my comrades then yes - I would! Of course you would. Governments generaly don't. How many state funerals has Bush been to, for those killed in Afganistan or Iraq? None. Why? Because he doesn't care. Why did the White House/Pentagon give the green light to rescue Private Jessica Lynch? Because it's good PR. They didn't make an effort for anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Beirut International Airport in flames after an Israeli airstrike. http://nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.726292.1152821344!img726276.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I heard on the radio that the Lebanese held Isreali soldiers are now captive in Iran. Would Isreal attack Iran? Would Iran fight back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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