outatime Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Disclaimers aren't generally worth the paper they are written on. The law is the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipmunk Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Whatever happened to Mr Dog? Anyone know what he's doing now? [/ChangeSubject] Probably a Haribo salesman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Time to split this off into a new thread perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 or just close this one so it stops the arguement? JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Good idea, no value to this thread anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osso Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Good idea, no value to this thread anymore. You arse licker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 You arse licker! Nah, I just think this is going nowhere now, I would imagine that by now most of us have made our minds up about Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nah, I just think this is going nowhere now, I would imagine that by now most of us have made our minds up about Thor buisness must still be ok... i tried calling there a few times today to book in for a power run and they were engaged all day:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Busy ? or hiding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 or just close this one so it stops the arguement? JB Perhaps if you just snip it in the bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Perhaps if you just snip it in the bud Ah great days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeky Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I think certain traders have got a bug up their behinds:rolleyes: Just get over it, you did a bad job - expect a flaming - simple. Hell when i had my supra wrecked by some spotty freaks from Baisingstoke (yeah you know who you are mo fo's) i ripped into them good an proper and to this day i still tell other supra owners about my experience with them. Its just part and parcel with any service from anywhere, automotive or not. just my 2c, i think going to court over what is said on a public internet forum is taking it a tad too far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Can't believe all this crap in the thread. Personally my only concern was that the club is not under legal threat. If Thor has obviously had such bad feedback (which is founded) then should they really be a club supplier? Maybe we need a three/four/five strikes you're out system? Or severity scale. (Engine blown = 10 (most dire), refused to replace a damaged indicator in postage = 1) Lots of red tape and nonsense, but maybe the only way for traders and club members to resolve such debates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Can't believe all this crap in the thread. Personally my only concern was that the club is not under legal threat. If Thor has obviously had such bad feedback (which is founded) then should they really be a club supplier? Maybe we need a three/four/five strikes you're out system? Or severity scale. (Engine blown = 10 (most dire), refused to replace a damaged indicator in postage = 1) Lots of red tape and nonsense, but maybe the only way for traders and club members to resolve such debates? Fair point, but effectively we can remove traders by simply not using them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Fair point, but effectively we can remove traders by simply not using them That's fine if you know about threads like this but if you are a newbie and see the company banner flying at the top of the homepage, well it's akin to a club thumbs up to using the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 Maybe we need a three/four/five strikes you're out system? Or severity scale. (Engine blown = 10 (most dire), refused to replace a damaged indicator in postage = 1) Lots of red tape and nonsense, but maybe the only way for traders and club members to resolve such debates?That would be possible using the Infraction System the forum upgrade will provide, but the problem is always being able to prove stuff. We have seen many times on here that one persons version of the facts is not always a very accurate version. How does the club decide who is right and who is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 That would be possible using the Infraction System the forum upgrade will provide, but the problem is always being able to prove stuff. We have seen many times on here that one persons version of the facts is not always a very accurate version. How does the club decide who is right and who is wrong? I'm not sure the club should to avoid claims of bias. Problem with automated systems is they can be abused. I think it needs to be a case of consumer X makes a complaint to the club about supplier Y. A standard email goes out to Supplier Y like "A complaint has been made about your services to the club. As you are an official recommended supplier it is our responsibility to investigate. Attached are the claims, please reply with your version of events. Beware that any comments made may be made available to club members to help them base their purchasing decisions in the future" The official complaint and response could be shown somewhere that people can't comment in. Clean, no ambiguity, no personal opinions thrown about - Just the 'facts' from both parties. Should a supplier have numerous such records or high severity then they're reviewed as an official supplier? I wouldn't mind taking on this role without any prejudice. Club Mediator or something? I do this kind of thing quite well at work with personel issues. Presentation of the facts as they I find them with no bias or personal opinion. The only person I wouldn't be able to mediate due to potential claimed bias is Chris Wilson due to friendship. Mind you - I probably wouldn't make many friends this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 The aviation evaluation world uses a point system. Manufacturers start off with 30 points and receive points for positive feedback and lose points for negative feedback. If their points drop below 15, they're done. If they rise above 80, they receive bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 That would be possible using the Infraction System the forum upgrade will provide, but the problem is always being able to prove stuff. We have seen many times on here that one persons version of the facts is not always a very accurate version. How does the club decide who is right and who is wrong? Sounds like another rating system people won't use. The itrader thingy should be sufficient, but people will not leave bad feedback for fear of retribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 The infraction system would be available to mods only, but it would hopefully allow people to problems being addressed over time. Although Pete's suggestion doesn't sound too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pump gas pete Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I am all in favour of Pete's idea. An excellent suggestion. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I am all in favour of Pete's idea. An excellent suggestion. Peter Pete's idea is well worth consideration:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hob Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I love Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I love Pete I love you too dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Big thumbs up to Pete's idea from me, I believe he would be very good in the role, he is one of the most upstanding and respected members and a real asset to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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