mawby Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Following complaints from Pete @ THOR Racing, and in light of impending legal action against the club, I am hereby requesting that no posts or threads are made on this forum regarding THOR Racing that could be perceived as libellous, inflammatory, or potentially reputation damaging, unless you have documented evidence to back up your claims. mawby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 in light of impending legal action against the club On what grounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 On what grounds? surely any comments in threads are personal opinion (conjecture and hearsay), and nothing to do with the club anyway, unless the complaint is on the grounds of inadequate moderation (which I sincerely hope is not the case). Hopefully all will be well. I haven't checked but it might be an idea to at least lock the offending threads - although maybe you've already got that covered. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 fair do's..... when's their trader renewal due? Then he can try and sue us all for freedom of speech as members, to be honest if i was trying to keep customers i wouldnt threaten the club that we all love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 On what grounds?Pete neglected to mention which threads and/or posts he specifically took objection to. Our hosts and I have both e-mailed him asking for more details. I will know more when one of us gets a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I believe this is a public forum , if the threads are on the public section then he cant do squat,due to freedom of free speech, if there were in the members section then he can, thats if he wants to pursue it to court , which means mega money . But its up to the mod's to decide which way they want to look at it ,What happened to the feedback section , i though thats what this was for ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 What happened to the feedback section , i though thats what this was for ?? People are too scared to use it properly, probably because traders come along with heavy-handed threats about legal action each time someone dares to question their work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Yeah when's their trader renewal up? Bye Thor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 if they are willing to spend there hard earn pennies on this then let them ...do it , but why are traders worried about this , if they did the things right in the first place then it would not come to this .... it just seems strange that you get persecuted for complaining ... well its up to the people involved to bring the matter up, if its true then what is the problem ?? so you get 1-3 solicitors letters , so what ... its having the balls to go all the way to court and seeing if they can afford to loose all that money . ..well if i was pissed off about someones service , and they did not do anything towards rectifying it, i know i would not hassiate on using it or shaming them .... as long as i have giving them ample time to resolve the issues . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 when's their trader renewal due?Their trader renewal is 3rd March 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Their trader renewal is 3rd March 2007. ohh cant we through them off?!? refund his money? surely if legal action has been threatened then you can disable his forum...whats the contract like lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew7 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 If I say something libellous about someone/trader on here, surely it is me who has committed the offence and not the forum, who is simply stating an (my) opinion?...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 If someone has said something which isn't correct and just looking to smear Thors reputation then this should indeed be persued. The club should fully co-operate with any legal requests and indeed remove any content in question until an official outcome is received. In general the club itself has nothing to worry about unless it was seen to endorse the alledged content and refuse to remove it. Members should appreciate the potential seriousness of the situation and refrain from inflaming the situation until it's resolved. I have no interest nor bias towards either side.(except the club) IMHO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 If I say something libellous about someone/trader on here, surely it is me who has committed the offence and not the forum, who is simply stating an (my) opinion?......That is correct, until the point where the libellous comment has been notified to the site administrator. At that point we have 24 hours to remove the comment, before we too become accountable for its contents. The same applies to our hosts. I was only made aware of a problem this morning, and our hosts were notified on Saturday. Unfortunately we cannot resolve this problem until Pete replies to our e-mails requesting the missing information from his original complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith C Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Yes, but we as the 'publishers' can be held liable as well if we don't take action to remove libellous content. Likewise, so can our hosting company. There are various defences under the 'fair comment' and 'privilege' clauses, but were legal action taken we'd then have to go to the expense and difficulties of solicitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Surely the BBS is fundamentally a database. Therefore why can't you filter and lock/hide/delete EVERY thread containing the word "THOR", until the issue is resolved. I'm certain I can guess which thread has triggered this threat though, so it must be pretty obvious to other people too. Isn't there a list of automatically censored words too, which will automatically filter away the unwanted words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Surley if someone is doing bad work then there should be a system to be voted off. I dont have any experience with thor at all but it seems crazy to keep a trader (when we have so many) who is potentially giving bad service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Surley if someone is doing bad work then there should be a system to be voted off. I dont have any experience with thor at all but it seems crazy to keep a trader (when we have so many) who is potentially giving bad service. But if that trader contests the allegations in court and wins, and the club has been seen to ban the trader based on those allegations then the club itself could be in trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 True, it woudl also need to be ballenced by people who have had good work done. However, speaking as a trader, whay shoudl I compete with someone who is not giving 100%. Seems strange. In theory I could setup another company, pay my ££££ as a trader, setup a website , take some money and F*** off with it, and the club will just say... ahhh never mind, he wont get renewed in 11 months. Bizzare to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 What a shame it has come to this, Pete Betts was an eminent member when I joined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Do thor really get a lot of business from here anyway, it certainly doesnt look like they try to hard, his section is practically empty compared with others! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 Isn't there a list of automatically censored words too, which will automatically filter away the unwanted words.There is, but I'm not sure censoring the word THOR is quite what Pete is after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Prawn Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Following complaints from Pete @ THOR Racing, and in light of impending legal action against the club, I am hereby requesting that no posts or threads are made on this forum regarding THOR Racing that could be perceived as libellous, inflammatory, or potentially reputation damaging, unless you have documented evidence to back up your claims. mawby Might be a good idea to lock this then before something is said that qualifies for the above:blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 However, speaking as a trader, whay shoudl I compete with someone who is not giving 100%. Seems strange. I wouldn't consider them a competitor if I were you. You're quite different in your approach and main product ranges. Just remember, it wouldn't take much serious legal action to shut the club down so it really is just best avoided for all our sakes n'est pas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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