Underworld Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 How do you declare stuff like a fuel cut defender, or decats on Elephant? Surely theyre not gonna know this from that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 How do you declare stuff like a fuel cut defender, or decats on Elephant? Surely theyre not gonna know this from that? decats go down as non standard exhaust....FCD i would'nt bother with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 no mods are covered anyway, if its not visually obvious i wouldn't quote it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 no mods are covered anyway, if its not visually obvious i wouldn't quote it IMO. Which if detected could invalidate your policy. Not good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Which if detected could invalidate your policy. Not good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 but if it is something that can be easily removed how could it be detected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 but if it is something that can be easily removed how could it be detected? how can you say if it will be easily removed or not? perhaps any accident you have may make it 'un-removable'? better off declaring EVERYTHING! Any insurance company won't need to be given a second invitation to refuse paying out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 but if it is something that can be easily removed how could it be detected? IF you have access to the car after an event and you're not lying in hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 true true, what annoys me is that elephant ask for mods then whack up the price but dont even cover the mods! so i say quote as fewer mods as possible. If you were with a decent insurer like Sky etc. then i'd say quote everything you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Just declare "basic engine mods" as a generalisation. They don't care what they are specifically, merely that power mods exist, and the kind of power boost they give all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 How do you declare stuff like a fuel cut defender, or decats on Elephant? Do you need a decat on an elephant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 well exhaust mods, can include de-cat, even though de-cats are illegal its all part of the exhaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 well exhaust mods, can include de-cat, even though de-cats are illegal its all part of the exhaust decats are illegal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 yes on cars after 92, road use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 yes on cars after 92, road use learn something new every day! so what's the penalty for these then if caught? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 decats are illegal?? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 lol what's so funny about that? I seriously didn't know if there were or not, if they are then why sell them or am I just being thick? are they illegal like it's illegal to copy cd's illegal or has anyone ACTUALLY been prosecuted for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelbuk Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 They are illegal because cars later than 92' need to pass higher emissions standards and because the law says so! Hence why you won't pass an MOT without them. If you get caught decatted you may just get a defect form and need to get the cats fitted again and have it inspected by an MOT tester. Otherwise I reckon a fixed penalty notice as well as the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtwinturbo Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Their "illegal" because a car that is decatted (after 92) will normally fail its MOT on emissions so thus technically speaking a car that will not pass an MOT is not roadworthy. I think thats right anyway. (of course everyone gets round this by having the car MOT'd with cats in then taking them out afterwards) And i guess there could also be problems with the car being too loud for the road with certain exhausts once decatted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtwinturbo Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 to quick for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underworld Posted July 6, 2006 Author Share Posted July 6, 2006 Back on topic ahem Cheers for that info. Yea it pisses me off the way that Elephant say you have to declare the mods, however they dont actually insure you for any of them. Whats more is you declare the value of your vehicle, and then they say they will pay market value. Whats the point? If your car is worth 8k, you declare it as 8k, and market value is in their books 6.5k. Youll get 6.5k if you crash. So basically by saying your car is worth 15k, will make your premium go up, and not affect any re-imbursal of money if you crash.. So what the hell is up with that. Shouldnt I just say my car is worth 6.5k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 thats why dont go with elephant,or have you already done that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Back on topic ahem Cheers for that info. Yea it pisses me off the way that Elephant say you have to declare the mods, however they dont actually insure you for any of them. Whats more is you declare the value of your vehicle, and then they say they will pay market value. Whats the point? If your car is worth 8k, you declare it as 8k, and market value is in their books 6.5k. Youll get 6.5k if you crash. So basically by saying your car is worth 15k, will make your premium go up, and not affect any re-imbursal of money if you crash.. So what the hell is up with that. Shouldnt I just say my car is worth 6.5k? but u can argue the toss with them tho, show them similar cars in the autotrader at the price you quoted etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 but u can argue the toss with them tho, show them similar cars in the autotrader at the price you quoted etc etc Thats exactly what i just had to do with very good results. They would repair my car up to 11k worth of damage:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith C Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 A decat is not, in and of itself, illegal. Failing the emission limits is, which obviously becomes much more likely when you've decatted. However, a Supra is borderline on emissions even when decatted - once emission tested my old one when decatted, and it passed 2 of the 3 tests, and only narrowly failed the third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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