Marty Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 What sort of power can you get these running at? its just a fella on another site recons he going to get his running to 550fwhp, seems a bit much for the engine IMO i thought about 400ish was the max? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 FWHP is bullshit anyway unless you take the engine out and measure it properly. RWHP is all that matters. What does he reckon his rwhp will be? I'd imagine 400rwhp would be quite achievable with the right setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 The basic kit will get you 300 rwhp thats with a T61 Turbo running at 7psi with stock injectors and hg. With uprated hg and injectors your looking at 450 - 550rwhp as the engine will be able to stand far more boost and also with the injectors will need to be mapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 he said 500rwhp, seemed a lil far fetched to me, thought the engine internals would have to be played with a bit. guess i was wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I thought after 400 you started getting into problems with compression etc. on NA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 It is possible but the reliability sucks due to the size head gasket required. At that level its pistons, so you may has well put a TT lump in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Boostlogic reckon 300 RWHP at 7psi or 450+ RWHP with a 2.5mm head gasket + other mods, but if you were going to go really crazy, wouldn't it be easier to start with a GTE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Is the high compression due to the piston design ie would a NA block with TT pistons reduce the compression enough to run higher boost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Does anybody know what 550 HP is actually like ? F1 cars are 800! So, only a 250 HP difference between a racing car & a road car. I'd interested to hear - how usable that power is going to be on the road. With regard to my car - was talking to a few guys and perhaps 440 at the rear wheels on WOT .. was a figure to base on. And I know for fact that on WOT - you just get there alot faster. Gear changes don't last long. For me personally as the driver - my car is just about streetable. I think people should take more demo's in some single Supras. The 500hp number seems to be the number of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Does anybody know what 550 HP is actually like ? F1 cars are 800! So, only a 250 HP difference between a racing car & a road car. no where near like an f1 car over 900kg of weight difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Of course, the power to weight ratio! But there is only a 250 HP difference in engine power - according to the figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I'm looking for 501hp some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 But there is only a 250 HP ifference in engine power - according to the figures. A f1 car is an NA engine and our engine Turbo, completely different delivery of power and how it gets the power. Please stop posting your making me sound like i know what im talking about lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Ok, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I will tell you my experience with my ultra reliable na-t, car was first fitted with the base boostlogic T61 kit, no head gasket but larger injectors (525cc) walbro pump and a safc2 to trim the injectors back... this gave a rwhp figure of 283 at 0.35 bar which I believe is slightly better than a stock tt, next up to be fitted was a 2.5mm head gasket, evc5, aeromotive fpr and e-manage using the 3 bar map sensor and mapped by IanC off the board, we were able to take the boost up to 0.8bar without being silly with the static pressure on the fpr (38psi) and the duty cycles were coming in at under 90%.... not sure what the power is now because the clutch now slips in 4th and 5th but it pulls hard, next up for me is a rps 6 puck and 780cc injectors.... that is a real world experience I was not promised any power figures like are being bounded about for this type of conversion which I for one think are bullshit all I know is my car is now probably in the 400 range but not even had one problem with reliability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray007 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Hi mate, glad to know your conversion was succesful. I have picked up a single turbo kit gor my na and need it to be installed, if you dont mind me asking how much did the labour cost on the fitting and mapping? also i am still not sure on what ecu to use, i was gana go for the greddy emanage blue but i have heard it isnt reliable??? If you could give me any advice on getting this conversion done it would be much appreciated, ive now had the kit for three weeks and im getting frustrated. cheers Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Ray, this thread was created almost 3 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 It has been said before Ray the kit you have is not ideal, the T04R is too big to run low boost, I would as I suggested before get the car to Whifbitz who removed this kit and talk to them, it will work ok with an emanage but needs other things as well including the manifold fixing You could always sell it on and get a TT engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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