Darren-K Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 will do but u watch this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801 fast forwars to 12.48 and watch! but dude its over 1 hour long ! and its just saying its a conpiracy, and there is no conspiracy ! lol ? there were warnings yes,. but no-one listened thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 deffo, but if a 747 did hit that spot where the hole is then where are the wings??? Since when did anyone say it was a 747???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew7 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Agreed, such damge can happen, but see the picture below. could a plane really do this sort of damage? [qimg]http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/jim_supra/pentagon.jpg[/qimg] How did whatever made the hole in the wall on the left avoid damaging the wall in the center? Things traveling at speed tend to continue going in straight lines......... The angle from the main impact on the right, to the damage in the wall on the left, don't correspond. There should be damage to the center wall in line with the two other damaged parts of the walls...?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 read this adam, honest : http://www.vialls.com/pentagon/pentagon.html your questions answered that is an interesting point, and maybe that can happen but i dont think that was what happened at the pentagon, bottom line is, there is minimal damage, and next to no debis, that just doesnt happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 imi, this is a specialised case.... you have a plane travelling at near full speed into a solid structure. In all cases where a plane explodes in the air you get high amount of wind resistence that slows the debirs down as it falls to earth. The materials in a mid-air explosion do not impact into any solid structure and therefore don't break up into the small particles as what happens when it hits an imovable wall. Also when a plane comes crashing down to earth and hits the ground at an angle you get deflection of the debris... you don't get the sudden longitudinal impact forces. There was another case of an airliner going down which hit the sea and that came down at a near 90degree angle ("seconds to impact" program from discovery channel).... again this left very little indication that it was a plane that crashed. It was just an area of floating particles as it disintigrated when it hit the water. They did however find the landing gear on that crash...and also a part of the engines on the sea floor. But no officials (I don't think) have ever said they haven't found any plane debris. Its just the public from outside the boundaries of the pentagon saying they couldn't make out any plane parts from the debris.... which is what I'd expect as all the debris will be such small parts and any thing of any significant weight will be embedded within the 2nd or 3rd walls... well away from public view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Since when did anyone say it was a 747???? ok ok it was a big plane and didnt want to keep refering to it a a "big plane" but it was a big plane!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 but dude its over 1 hour long ! and its just saying its a conpiracy, and there is no conspiracy ! lol ? there were warnings yes,. but no-one listened thats all. i completly agreed with you before i saw that footage!! fast forward to 12mins 48 secs it about 10mins long about the pentagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 the questions about surrounding damage is a good one... I too would have thought there would be areas that indicated where the wings impacted and disintegrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 if there is debris in the inside how did it get there tho? only 1 small hole in the outer wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 highly recommend watching the loose change video very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 But that's in soft material surely, where the bullet is harder than the object it is striking..... You can't have it both ways, i.e. there was no debris because the plane broke into little pieces and then say those little pieces caused a perfectly round hole.... properties of materials change on impacts,it all happens in nanoseconds, in a couple of nanoseconds of impact both surfaces ( the wall and ali plane body) experience massive stress, in a bullet all the stress is focused on its nose hence it will go thru most things but sometimes the bullet is left mishaped or totaly flat say,or will break into tiny pieces. with a plane crash the stress on the plane is the same stress thats on the building, - so both recieve damage,. difference is tho that the plane is experiencing Inertia and the building isnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 if there is debris in the inside how did it get there tho? only 1 small hole in the outer wall. weve covered this and explained it away allready,. its like a canon effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 cop out!! a 757 hitting a building at 500mph wud do more damage than that! it is a 757 BTW!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew7 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 weve covered this and explained it away allready,. its like a canon effect. So where's the "cannon effect" on the center wall? (see my previous post)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 cop out!! a 757 hitting a building at 500mph wud do more damage than that! it is a 757 BTW!!!! bomb proof building is the pentagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 especially that section which had just been renovated to be made stronger, TO PROTECT RUMSFELD on the other side of the pentagon! Its like a huge jigsaw and all the pieces are falling into place!! so the centre section of the plane was able to pass thru 3 sections of "bomb proof pentagon" yet everything else disintegrated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 So where's the "cannon effect" on the center wall? (see my previous post)... were dealing with pressure here,and pressure can take allsorts of routes - i mentioned this with reference to WW2 bunkers when they used to blow em up same thing used to happen., exit points of the explosion all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 especially that section which had just been renovated to be made stronger, TO PROTECT RUMSFELD on the other side of the pentagon! Its like a huge jigsaw and all the pieces are falling into place!! so the centre section of the plane was able to pass thru 3 sections of "bomb proof pentagon" yet everything else disintegrated? ever heard of a pressure bomb ? (* edit - should say pressure effects of a bomb ) more than likely it wasnt the actual physical plane that made the interior holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 gotta go work now please watch that loose change at 12mins 48secs. then see what u think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 arrrr so it was a pressure bomb that hit the pentagon, ok sounds beleivable to me :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 nahr it was just some fella stamping on a crisp packet outside the pentagon.. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 nahr it was just some fella stamping on a crisp packet outside the pentagon.. lol lol over dramatic yanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 alrighty then so its finally decided..... due to the fact that americans can not build stuff properly, a random passer by accidently stamped on a crisp packet and the resulting pressure wave blew a massive hole in the building. So it is a conspiracy after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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