fat_controller Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 i've just bought a uktt6 and i thought i was having trouble with my boost controller as the car wasn't boosting right but have now sused out it was the clutch, it gets better though, i've also got smoke coming out of the exhaust when i put me foot down so i think thats a turbo seal.lol the cars got a hks dragger exhaust and hks filter, also a greddy profec b spec2 boost controller running around 1.3 bar. could som1 please tell me the best clutch to buy for this set up and how much it is and how much it is to get the turbo rebuilt. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 sum1 help mee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Smoke could be turbo seals on the way out... but it could be valve stem oil seals. Or as I see you've got a HKS exhaust, it could be all the baffles and exhaust wadding breaking up and burning (luckily my smoking turned out to be that believe it or not!). Also 1.3bar is a bit much, 1.2 is the generally accepted max. As for clutches, I'd speak to chris wilson and get one of his modified stock clutches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 how much smoke we talking out the exhaust, colour? what Turbo's are they, are they just standard UK spec. As the OEM turbo's seem to be safe up to 1.2 bar. From what your describin sounds like Turbo failure, dependant on amount of smoke colour etc.. you making normal boost? if so then rules turbo failure out of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 yeah there just stock turbos and the smoke is just grey/white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 does it feel like the turbo's are coming online at the right points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 plus i'm making resonable boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 i can't tell the clutch has gone and has been slipng for a while but i thought that was the turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoSupra Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 sounds like you got water in your cylinders if it's grey/white is it lumpy when you start it up first thing? using water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 yeah it's spraying out a bit of water actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 what has to happen if it is water in the cylinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 i shoulda just bought a n/a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 what has to happen if it is water in the cylinders if its going through water, then the head gasket may of gone and will need to be replaced im an NA 120k miles and no engine problems (sorry wrong time to be telling you lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoSupra Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 is it using water? coolant getting low at all? nah stick with yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Also in the expansion tank of the water coolant is there any traces of oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Is the smoke only there on start up or all the time? If it's just on start up it is more than likely just condensation in the exhaust. Don't drive the car if the clutch is slipping, as the heat generated could damage the flywheel and replacement flywheels are not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Is the smoke only there on start up or all the time? If it's just on start up it is more than likely just condensation in the exhaust. Don't drive the car if the clutch is slipping, as the heat generated by the could damage the flywheel and replacement flywheels are not cheap. To the rest of you, come on guys, don't draw such dramatic conclusions to so little explaination of the problem! - A little white smoke/grey on startup is normal (its condensation in the exhaust). Water will also pour out of the pipe, I've seen some leave 4-5 meters of water trail when pulling away from cold. - A little blue smoke on startup indicates worn valve stem seals (common issue and it'll do tens of thousands of miles like this) - Blue smoke after a LONG time sat idling is the same as above - Blue smoke when hitting boost (only) is turbo seals. - Blue smoke during all conditions is likely to mean an engine rebuild. Its almost unheard of on a 2jz. Certainly indicates a badly looked after car. What conditions does your car meet? Do you have any oil in the expansion tank, any muck in the oil filler cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoSupra Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 trying to get as much info out of him to help along! Thats what were here for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 i've also got smoke coming out of the exhaust when i put me foot down so i think thats a turbo seal he's already answered in his first post when the smoke is happening and its not on start up unless he plants his foot on the drive alsoi asked what colour the smoke was and was told grey / white...not blue hence my replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 I'm just trying to clarify things, its not mentioned whether its under boost (1st/2nd turbo), cold/warm, after long idle, what colour smoke under each curcumstance, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Also do your engine a favour and lose the HKS filter, stock is far better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voo51 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 My Turbo seals have currently gone i have had it diagnosed and they are being fixed at the end of June. I have grey/white smoke coming out my car on tick over and when i accelerate, mostly when going down hill for some reason! but it started off a bit of smoke a few months back and now theres plumes of it. It doesnt smoke when i first start up the car though, just after a bit wen the oils warmed up. Also, i got a quote from Thor to have standard turbos fitted and it was close to £2000 then for hybrid twin turbos was around £2800 but for the basics of a big single ( not including ecu upgrade, injectors and front mount- so will be running about 500 bhp to begin with) its on £2600. So thats what i have gone for the to get the other parts to increae it up to 700bhp in a few months. So i think thats a better option if you was planning to go single at some point anyway. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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