336 bhp WRX

[heckler]

guys,

 

I'm having an interesting "chat" with a guy that has a 2002 UK scooby WRX with 336 bhp and 245 ft/lb of torque, he recons that the 0-60 is 4 secs. is he talking crap?

 

what do you recon?

[SkyJawa]

In his dreams.

It weighs too much and thats not enough power.

 

My mates 350bhp wagon (old style so lighter) is only 5ish secs to 60 and I've beaten him.............

[SkyJawa]

By the way - that torque figure is seriously crap, he should be gutted by that, my mates is 320lb/ft........

[Thorin]

Nah, not enough torque.

[Tannhauser]

Purely in terms of bhp/ton, it doesn't look likely. If it weighs, say, 1350kg then it has a bhp/ton of 248. Most cars that are achieving 0-60 in 4 seconds or thereabouts seem to have a ratio considerably greater than this:

 

e.g.

AC212 S/C.....375 0-60 in 4.0

Westfield SEIGHT club.....296 " " " 4.0

Noble M12 GTO...........321 " " " 4.1

Viper GTS-R.................362 " " " 4.0

 

Of course, this isn't taking into account lots of other variables, and, to be fair, there are a few cars that are achieving similar figures with lower ratios (e.g. 911 turbo 276 bhp/ton).

[Weka]

Something must be seriously wrong with the engine if that torque fiqure is correct and not mis-typed! Maybe its 345ft/lbs?

[Paul Laing]

It comes with 240bhp i think and a 0-60 in about 5.8 seconds, how can 100bhp make it do 4 second to 60 times?

 

Tell him he's full of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[heckler]

paul, that was my point too. he says he has a piece of paper to prove it, whether its to prove 336bhp, or this "4 sec" i dont know, I'm still waiting for it.

 

Apparently he ran a 13.5 1/4 mile at the last jap meet at the pod (i think) and he recond he was beating supras with over 450 bhp.

 

 

si

[Thorin]

Originally posted by heckler

Apparently he ran a 13.5 1/4 mile at the last jap meet at the pod (i think) and he recond he was beating supras with over 450 bhp.

 

 

si

 

They must have been crap drivers then

 

I've done 13.12 with less than 400, and I know it's capable of better.

[Paul Laing]

I doubt mines running 4 second to 60 runs, it's stock apart from a exhaust, de-cat and filter and running about 350/60bhp and i got a 13.43 at Elvington. The stock supra gets to 60 in 4.9 so if he did the quarter mile in 13.5 it's gotta be around the 5 second mark, not 4!!! Tell him that

[SkyJawa]

Originally posted by heckler

paul, that was my point too. he says he has a piece of paper to prove it, whether its to prove 336bhp, or this "4 sec" i dont know, I'm still waiting for it.

 

Apparently he ran a 13.5 1/4 mile at the last jap meet at the pod (i think) and he recond he was beating supras with over 450 bhp.

 

 

si

 

Never heard someone so full of shit!!!

 

I know Impreza's backwards and theres no chance.

[shaf]

i was reading the new jap mag or was it bonzai yesterday. anyhow, the new subaru 330bhp odd according to their figures does the 0-60 sprint in 4.2 secs. they rated it better than the mitsi 8 fq300, which was only 300bhp.

 

anyhow, watching the totb2 dvd given away with redline or revs, the sups werent managing very impressive 1/4 miles..... not the ones they showed anyway.

[SkyJawa]

Yes, thats the special Jspec only WRX STi TYPE RA LTD SPEC C which is lightened, close ratio gearbox, active centre diff, twin scroll turbo etc, none of which this modded WRX will have!

 

[Steve W2]

Originally posted by shaf

i was reading the new jap mag or was it bonzai yesterday. anyhow, the new subaru 330bhp odd according to their figures does the 0-60 sprint in 4.2 secs. they rated it better than the mitsi 8 fq300, which was only 300bhp.

 

anyhow, watching the totb2 dvd given away with redline or revs, the sups werent managing very impressive 1/4 miles..... not the ones they showed anyway.

 

The gear ratio's mybe different on the new car. If is normal 0-60 is 5.8 there is no way he will cut a third off that time with only 100 BHP and no weight loss.

 

Tell him he is so gei he should be drivin a Nova. he's putting Scooby owners to shame:cool:

[shaf]

yah, gear ratio's is what i thought too :littled:

[SkyJawa]

Originally posted by Steve W2

The gear ratio's mybe different on the new car.

 

Oi Steve - read me post the one above yours

 

"close ratio gearbox" Or at least all previous RA Impreza's had it. Its had revised ports and manifold too etc, so very diff from the standard car.

 

 

[Steve W2]

Originally posted by HISUPE

Oi Steve - read me post the one above yours

 

"close ratio gearbox" Or at least all previous RA Impreza's had it. Its had revised ports and manifold too etc, so very diff from the standard car.

 

 

 

Ah yes but technically just becuase it has a close ratio gearbox it doesn't mean the gears ratio's are made lower for better accleration:p

 

But I see what you mean, I didn't read your post properly:stupid:

[shaf]

Originally posted by Steve W2

But I see what you mean, I didn't read your post properly:stupid:

 

steve can read??

 

ooooo, maybe i better not flame him anymore then :flame Dev

[Steve W2]

Originally posted by shaf

steve can read??

 

ooooo, maybe i better not flame him anymore then :flame Dev

 

Oh look.....that little SHAFT boy has come back again;)

 

Don't make drive to Basingstoke and show you what your MR2's big BAD bro' can do:D

 

I found this smiley for you too....

[shaf]

ha ha, big bro's got a huuuuuuge @ss and aint too quick off the mark but once he gets going can dish out some bigtime whup @ss

 

you'll run out of petrol before you can get here

 

ha ha, thank god im bold

 

.....ooooh wonder how many posts i can make before i gotta pay

[SkyJawa]

Steve - aye, I suppose it weren't the clearest

 

But yeah - Type R and RA's have usually always had lower ratios geared for acceleration more than top end!

[Paul Laing]

I would never have a Scooby now, common as muck compared to the Evo's!!!

 

Scoobys were nice a few years back, i remember how rare they were......but now now!!!

 

Paul

[damouk]

for stock stuff i found an equasion some time back which seems to work quite well for a ball park guess:

 

kerb weight kgs

----------------- = 0-60 (sec)

BHP x 0.9

 

stock supe works out to be about 5.2sec

[MONKEYmark]

how does he know he racing 450 bhp supras and beating them?

i dont know what power i have but just say 380-400 when running 1bar on sticky tyres did a 11.962 with a 1.7 60foot. that sure feels quick off the mark.

 

talking to a guy from aus who does a lot of drag racing and builds skyline engines. he says a 1.7 60foot is about 4 seconds

 

maybe you should arrange him to have a race with some supras see how many he beats.

 

i have lined up with evo before and beat him then lined up with him again and he did not want to race. beat lots of scoobies on street tyres.

 

i would not say scoobies are a crap car. they look a fun car. been in a wrx sti 5 ra or some name. sure was rapid off the mark driven hard.

[Keith C]

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