black cat Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 they look fine but the right front is sticking shut really bad. its not locking wheel but is binding like a shit.... and the judder is still there cos when its stood the right front is hard fast on enough so there is no way you could push the car. my question is, can you get a refurb kit, james told me toyota do this (the spring clips) but not sure if ive got the tools to do the job. the saxo is a totaly different animal... does the caliper have to come off totally or can it be service on the car. i ask this cos its going to turbo fit and iam wondering if i should leave it for people who kno what ther doing....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon F Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 they look fine but the right front is sticking shut really bad. its not locking wheel but is binding like a shit.... and the judder is still there cos when its stood the right front is hard fast on enough so there is no way you could push the car. my question is, can you get a refurb kit, james told me toyota do this (the spring clips) but not sure if ive got the tools to do the job. the saxo is a totaly different animal... does the caliper have to come off totally or can it be service on the car. i ask this cos its going to turbo fit and iam wondering if i should leave it for people who kno what ther doing....... Refurb kit is usually seals, dustboots and dustboot clips. It's worth getting new pad pins and clips while you are at it. Toyota can also supply caliper pistons if you need to change any. The calipers need to be thouroughly cleaned before you think about taking the pistons out, so they should come off the car. You may need a compressed air-line to release pistons if they are well stuck in there - mind your fingers when they come out! If you dont know what you are doing, leave the job well alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Here are the Toyota part number for the refurb kits 04479-14140 4 pot Front Brake Caliper Overhaul Kit 04479-14130 2 pot Rear Brake Caliper Overhaul Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 they arent too bad to do, just a bit messy, i got my pistons out by levering them with a large flat screwdriver , oh and use the greese thats supplied very sparingly there isent much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Im have to do my caliper seal as well, just wondering when after took off the caliper off the car, do you just leave the brake pipe to one side or will it drain all the fluid out, is it not good to leave the master cylinder low? because Im thinking to polish & paint it as well, so may need off the car for a while. any advice help. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukApache Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 they look fine but the right front is sticking shut really bad. its not locking wheel but is binding like a shit.... and the judder is still there cos when its stood the right front is hard fast on enough so there is no way you could push the car. my question is, can you get a refurb kit, james told me toyota do this (the spring clips) but not sure if ive got the tools to do the job. the saxo is a totaly different animal... does the caliper have to come off totally or can it be service on the car. i ask this cos its going to turbo fit and iam wondering if i should leave it for people who kno what ther doing....... straight forward job once the caliper is off the car & you get the pistons out, be warned though all 6 pistons (I did F&R) on mine were a pain to get out & that was with a compressor! Im have to do my caliper seal as well, just wondering when after took off the caliper off the car, do you just leave the brake pipe to one side or will it drain all the fluid out, is it not good to leave the master cylinder low? because Im thinking to polish & paint it as well, so may need off the car for a while. any advice help. cheers if you just leave it to one side the fluid will def drain out! you need to seal off the end with a plug or something. if you let the reservoir empty then you'll have to bleed the whole system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 on mine where the caliper is sticking, I took the pads out, use a bit of wood on the piston while someone press the brake, so both piston came out 2/3, so I hope I can pull them out with plier or something, only thing I wasnt sure is the brake pipe off the caliper, what can I use to stop it drip out? a rubber bag with lastic band? as I plan to paint it, so it will off the car for a long time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukApache Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 on mine where the caliper is sticking, I took the pads out, use a bit of wood on the piston while someone press the brake, so both piston came out 2/3, so I hope I can pull them out with plier or something, only thing I wasnt sure is the brake pipe off the caliper, what can I use to stop it drip out? a rubber bag with lastic band? as I plan to paint it, so it will off the car for a long time? i dont think a bag & elastic band will hold, theres hardly any pressure but it still seems to drip through. i put a piece of cloth into the ring that the banjo bolt goes though & then wrapped it tight with a lot of cling film ...after a few days it dripped though. tbh though if your taking the pistons out you'll prob need to do a full bleed anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 This is what happens when you don't drive it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I know how to bleed the brake off the caliper all round, but when you say full re-bleed, what does it involved? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_supra Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Buy a brake hose clamp from halfords or the like. That will stop any fluid escaping from the hose when you undo it from the caliper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 thank you, I could do that but clamp on the plastic pipe.............. will the plastic pipe be ok? or next upgrade would be the stainless steel horse, will they improved breaking?, I had the pads from CW. with stock disc. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_supra Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 When you say plastic I take it you mean the flexible hose that bolts to the caliper. If so then yes the clamp will be fine on that as it will only clamp enough to close the pipe and not damage it. You cannot clamp any other brake pipe than the flexible ones. Stainless steel braided hoses will improve braking. They do not expand like the rubber hoses do under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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