Seb Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Has anyone put together a list of what bits are essential when you're going single? And if they have, why isn't it sticky somewhere? And if it is, why can't I find it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 If you give it a week or so I'll put up my list of stuff I bought recently. That'll include pretty much everything down to individual fittings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Cool, I think it'll be really useful for a lot of people - I'm surprised it hasn't been done before. Think it should get stickied in Tech when it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 How detailed do you want the list? Only it changes as the power requirements go up and depending on the starting configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.B Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Single kit AFR ECU FMIC Injectors Wastegate Gauges FPR Prob more but cant jog my memory. Also you have to be prepared for things to go pop under the extra power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 How detailed do you want the list? Only it changes as the power requirements go up and depending on the starting configuration. As detailed as you are willing to make it, the more detail the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Perhaps it could be broken down into sections - the absolute basics that will let you run a single safely, and then the extra parts that aren't essential, but wouldn't go amiss or would be needed if you want more power? Would also be good to know things like what size injectors support what sort of power - I have a very good formually somewhere for working this out actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 The Supra's layout lends itself to a very rough rule of thumb 1cc per hp so 6x720cc injectors can support ~720hp (flywheel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 Sorry for dragging this back up, but has anyone got around to doing this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Off the top of my head before i go to sleep, bound to forget a lot of important stuff.... Turbo Kit with associated oil feeds etc Manifold (heat coated) DP and MP (heat coated) Exhaust (if stock) Wastegate BOV Fuelling - FPR, injectors, new fuel pump(s) Wideband Ignition amplifier Spark Plugs ECU/Piggybacks. Will need MAP sensors etc if standalone Boost controller Gauges Decent SMIC/FMIC Decent rad Cams Crank Pulley (not everyone does this) Breather systems (not everyone does this) Clutch if manual I got other stuff too like new oil filter, oil, fuel filter, coolant etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 heres lots of pics of the bl turbo kit i took ages ago. BL Turbo kit full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 The trouble with this sort of thing is that one person's idea of "essential" is another person's "frivolous and unneccesary"... About the only thing people can't argue about is: 1* Big Fat Turbo Everything after that is up for debate -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Just some thoughts - all IMHO and very willing to be added / detracted 1 HKS F-Con Pro (properly and carefully mapped - not a 'generic' map!) 1 HKS F-Con Pro Harness (otherwise Motec - NOT Emanage or AEM just IMHO you understand) 1 AEM AFR Gauge (clock position) 1 set PE 650 injectors minimum 1 Uprated or UK fuel pump 1 HKS Blow-Off Valve Generic (or specific) 1 HKS Weld-on Flange (if generic) 6 Denso Iridium Spark plug (cold) 1 Boost Controller (HKS EVC / Blitz sbc-id color etc) 1 HKS Turbo Timer Type-1 1 Miami-Gt double Decat Pipe with performance exhaust i.e. 1 HKS /Greddy Ti Exhaust or 4" turboback Turbofit Exhaust 1 RPS Clutch I.e. Max Street (depends on power/turbo) 1 Miami-GT 3-pod pillar / glovebox 1 Blitz Pressure 1 Blitz Boost (air vent placement) 1 Blitz Temp 1 Blitz EGT 1 TRD radiator cap 1 Greddy Oil Catch Tank / Breather piping 1 Precision Turbo (GT-35R / T61 / T67DBB P etc) / oil feeds / gaskets 1 Air Intake piping / Clamps etc (various - mikalors good0 1 Cast Manifold or Cheap tubular 'disposeable' 1 Wastegate - spring rating TBC HKS / Tial or Cheap 'disposeable' 1 K&N Filter (or other for intake) 1 Miami-GT 19 row oil cooler and relocation kit 1 Miami-GT 2 row front Mounted Intercooler (larger dependiong on turbo / power) 1 Miami-GT radiator hard pipe kit 1 Racelogic Traction control 1 Good tyres Optional 1 HKS 2JZ-GTE Head Gasket 1 HKS 2JZ-GTE 256 Intake Cam 1 HKS 2JZ-GTE 264 Exhaust Cam 1 HKS Twin Power DLI 1 APR studs / Bolts 1 Uk / uprated Brakes and Good Pads 1 Uprated / adjustable Suspension / Geometry set up Other products other than Miami-GT ones do exist for the purposes set out - I just had them on my list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 So it's essential to have all those Miami GT products then, a single turbo conversion simply won't work without them Well I can understand that, any other brand pillar pod and the car wouldn't even start. -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 and there are a few bits missing too, but hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 No need guys - if nothing to add of use move along.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 No need guys - if nothing to add of use move along.... You started it with your catalogue list. In an effort to be helpful I'll kick off a thread in tech. -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 MIAMI GT SPEC LIST I don't know where to begin... Seb, the best thig to do is decide your budget....everything else will depend on that. If your starting with a bone stock car and want to upgrade the whole thing (properly) then you need £5k absolute min IMO. Once you have a budget to allow for all the main components, budget another 1k to allow for incurred costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 You started it with your catalogue list. In an effort to be helpful I'll kick off a thread in tech. -Ian Well that WOULD be helpful... And I look forward to the contributions from the learned gentlemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Well that WOULD be helpful... And I look forward to the contributions from the learned gentlemen Teachers strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 OK OK hissy fits aside (Sorry Paul you know how I get when people try and sell stuff as an answer to a tech question ) I've started a tech thread here for people to contribute what they think makes up a minimum spec good single turbo setup. I've populated the template with my personal thoughts on it as an example of how I see it being used. This might work, it might not, worth a try -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Arnouts single turbo manifold Turbo of choice Tial 42mm wastegate Adaptor for wastegate to manifold Pipe with flexi section from wastegate to downpipe Downpipe Intercooler pipes from turbo to I/C Turbo oil feed and drain pipes and fittings and gaskets Turbo thermal blanket Thermal wrap for downpipe Wastegate and manifold heat shields Thermal wrap for vulnerable wiring, hoses and conduit Air filter assembly and piping and bracketry Assuming early manual J-Spec (I wouldn't contemplate a single on an auto or Tiptronic, period...) Power FC Apexi boost controller and FC harness Uprated fuel pump Injectors to suit desired end power Colder plugs Wide band O2 sensor and readout LOTS of mapping, expect to spend at least a grand if done by an expert including cold start and reasonable light throttle running. Niceities, but by no means essential: Engine oil cooler EGT gauge Water injection My SMIC Custom cold air box feed for air filter Not required unless going for mega power (over 500) "Uprated" FPR "Uprated" fuel rail - Probably not needed at any power level seen in the UK "Uprated" head gasket Any sort of trick oil additives Lots of gauges horribly wired up and about to fall from some iffily mounted screen pillar that soes a very effective job of blinkering one side of your vision Bizarre dashboard colour schemes Bizarre "body kits", "spoilers", "wings" and wheels that weigh a ton, don't fit and scream tastelessness, shod with this weeks special offer Korean tyres. Advertising decals unless you are getting good sponsorship money to display them, and the car is a track only car... DO NOT CONTEMPLATE a single kit if the engine you have is near knackered, and really needs a rebuild, or if funds are so tight any sudden unexpected problem costing a few hundred quid to a grand extra will faze you All IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Advertising decals unless you are getting good sponsorship money to display them, and the car is a track only car... Hey those are essential I tell you. +20bhp at least Anyway, you say "not required unless going for mega power" and under that you put the bizarre body kits - either you think they are required over 500bhp or you slipped into rant mode -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I slip it rant mode a lot at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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