theo sz 3.0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 any one heard of it before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Yes lift off oversteer, it is what my saxo vts used to do, quite scary if your not expecting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 My old 16v Clio taught me all about lift-off O/S! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Peugeot 306 GTI6 got very sideways with me a couple of times, just plant the throttle while steering out of it or it'll go twice as quick the other way. It happens really quick tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Isn't this related to FWD cars mainly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo sz 3.0 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 im just asking cos my civic type R did it today and it scared the fucking shit out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure I could be.... RWD... They push the car around the corner.. Get over steer with too much power.. Lift off and it stops pushing/stops over steering. FWD... They pull the car around the corner.. Get under steer with too much power.. Lift off and the car stops pulling and the rear wants to get in front. This might be slightly simple in it's idea (ie lift off too quickly in a RWD and it might want to snap the opposite way), but I think that's the general theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Isn't this related to FWD cars mainly? Think mid engined cars too, i know my MR2 did it. im just asking cos my civic type R did it today and it scared the fucking shit out of me. Take it you got it back ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 You can get lift-off oversteer in any car, it happens because of weight transfer. When you lift, the car slows down, which transfers weight to the front. That gives the front more grip and the rear less. A more extreme version happens if you brake while cornering. You can use this to help the car turn into a corner, by coming off the brakes slightly after you turn in to give the front more grip as you turn into the corner. This is called trail braking (not a good idea to try it unless you know what youre doing though!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 This is called trail braking (not a good idea to try it unless you know what youre doing though!). Although great fun in a old school Mini cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DON Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 my swift gti was classic for it:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 The Supras do do it resonably well, the UK ones much better for some reason (bloody lardy things!). As Simon says, its all about weight transferance. Understand that and you are well on you way to drifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 as an added bonus, lift off oversteer can be much worse on permenant 4wd cars. In additional to any simple weight transfer which should 'normally' be more predictable when on the egde, lifting of in a 4wd can cause torque from the fronts to be transfered to the rears (as far as my understanding of it goes) where they rapidly (split second) loose traction and the car can do a spontaneous 180 spin, That's proper lift off over steer lol that can bite you bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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